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Note well that it will silently send lots of information about your machine and browsing/usage to Google: https://github.com/netdata/netdata/issues/7366 They added a tiny mention in the installer when I complained, but they still don’t mention how to opt out. The opt out doesn’t disable the spyware in the webpage, either. I have a patched version (sneak/netdata) on dockerhub, if you like. The issue is that it’s just…

There are 17 lines of text output to verify the installation choices, of them 5 are devoted to opting out of the anonymous telemetry. The wording seems clear. NOTE: Anonymous usage stats will be collected and sent to Google Analytics. To opt-out, pass --disable-telemetry option to the installer or export the enviornment variable DO_NOT_TRACK to a non-zero or non-empty value (e.g: export DO_NOT_TRACK=1).

Also worth mentioning: they are lying when they say it’s anonymous. It includes your IP address, which is a globally unique identifier. I believe it also transmits an installation ID, which persists on the machine.

It is absolutely not anonymous.

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It didn't stop working. It just doesn't get updated anymore.

In Stallman thinking though, he doesn't have the freedom to fix or update it himself. (I don't think Stallman's ideas are necessarily right for everybody, but I'm glad he's doing his thing right out in his end of the bell curve to counteract the opposite end of the software philosophy craziness...)

Under Stallmans model the developer works for free, and I guess they need a second job to pay the rent. Ah but GPL doesn’t mean free as in beer? Oh yes for practical purposes it does mean exactly that. Outlier business models excepted of course!

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If you're getting alerts for non-actionable events, you need to do a better job of tuning your monitors and alerts. Alerts shouldn't be sent about anything that doesn't require an action.

There‘s a wide variety of „requires action“. It might be that it‘s fine to act within 1 hour or within 10min. Both deserves an alert, but only one requires you to immediately stop your coffe break... In an ideal world, I agree. But sometimes an automated system can not perfeclty decide about the severity of an alert which leads to some alerts being ignofed, which is fine.

If an alert doesn't need action for 1 hour, the alert should happen 1 hour later.

Alert fatigue is a big problem in the sysadmin/devops world.

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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There are 17 lines of text output to verify the installation choices, of them 5 are devoted to opting out of the anonymous telemetry. The wording seems clear. NOTE: Anonymous usage stats will be collected and sent to Google Analytics. To opt-out, pass --disable-telemetry option to the installer or export the enviornment variable DO_NOT_TRACK to a non-zero or non-empty value (e.g: export DO_NOT_TRACK=1).

Also worth mentioning: they are lying when they say it’s anonymous. It includes your IP address, which is a globally unique identifier. I believe it also transmits an installation ID, which persists on the machine. It is absolutely not anonymous.

I doubt that my IP address is a globally unique identifier. I can think of 15-20 devices that are sharing it now. Advertising networks jump through a lot of hoops to tie those devices together in a small cluster of user profiles.

How does the installation ID identify a person?

Re: Show HN: Monitoror – Unified monitoring wallboard

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In Stallman thinking though, he doesn't have the freedom to fix or update it himself. (I don't think Stallman's ideas are necessarily right for everybody, but I'm glad he's doing his thing right out in his end of the bell curve to counteract the opposite end of the software philosophy craziness...)

Under Stallmans model the developer works for free, and I guess they need a second job to pay the rent. Ah but GPL doesn’t mean free as in beer? Oh yes for practical purposes it does mean exactly that. Outlier business models excepted of course!

Actually no. Under Stallman's model it is perfectly okay to demand and earn payment for your work, but results still would be free, quote, as in "free speech", not "free beer", unquote. Did you see bounty offers in open source repos' issues?
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