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Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

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Thank you and sorry about that. Feel free to submit a suitable page about taoism.

I’m the wrong one to submit as I’m trying to learn more myself. Wikipedia entries are an easy place to start, and that should be straightforward to add to your index. I think it’s problematic to have random people submit to the index with no incentive. I’m just becoming interested in tai chi, but I run no such webpage (who usually submits). There might be a way to gamify or otherwise incentivize people, but that’s a…

"I think it’s problematic to have random people submit to the index with no incentive."

"There might be a way to gamify"

I hear you. First of all, you guys aren't random people to me. You're my favorite internet people.

There are already some hundred entries in the index, all from you guys. If I analyzed the contents right now it would probably tell me something about us, as a group.

One of the entries is pornhub.com. We have at least one male in the group.

Maybe organic growth of the index has already started. And once I teach you how to use the public HTTP API and not just the web GUI, perhaps you will all start to see how useful this service already is. And it will grow even more.

We'll see.

Someone just donated 5 huge servers, big ones. Didyougogo will be around a while at least.

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

#123
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Please put a license on the source code. Right now, by default, it's "all rights reserved" so no one can use it or do anything with it.

i second this idea, though I disagree with the idea that someone can't do anything with it. there's nothing, say, physically stopping me, and since the intent is expressed on the page as open source, i really doubt the author would do anything to stop me either. beyond that, i doubt there are any other parties interested enough to prevent anyone from using it, so at this point i don't think it matters too much, espec…

I'm all about fair use and I would want you to draw exactly those conclusions about me and about using my code.

I just added a MIT license. Not sure that was the right one, but to be clear, I want anyone to be able to fork it, run a business/do whatever with it, without me being able to sue them. At no time can I sue them.

The more forks the better. As long as they adhere to certain principles, like not detroying the current HTTP API's, they will all be able to talk to each other, which is how I would like this to scale.

By having many people running search services, load and storage will be distributed.

Why would they run a search service? Well, they might need one for their site and once it's up and loaded with your content, you can now start to query it for data that you don't host. Others host it. I host a "www" index. You might host a "my_data" index. So you can create queries that span those two indexes.

Is the (business) idea.

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

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Awesome, but man, that name really needs some work. It sounds like I'm asking a two-year-old whether he's been on the potty.

I agree—naming is deeply underrated, and it's not at all too late! Just choose something abstract and appealing, or a simple noun without any weird associations.

"Just choose something"

Did you see that South Park episode where they try to pick a name for their startup but all names are taken? It's very, very funny.

So yeah, I want the perfect name for this. What _is_ the perfect name?

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

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i second this idea, though I disagree with the idea that someone can't do anything with it. there's nothing, say, physically stopping me, and since the intent is expressed on the page as open source, i really doubt the author would do anything to stop me either. beyond that, i doubt there are any other parties interested enough to prevent anyone from using it, so at this point i don't think it matters too much, espec…

I'm all about fair use and I would want you to draw exactly those conclusions about me and about using my code. I just added a MIT license. Not sure that was the right one, but to be clear, I want anyone to be able to fork it, run a business/do whatever with it, without me being able to sue them. At no time can I sue them. The more forks the better. As long as they adhere to certain principles, like not detroying the…

> Well, they might need one for their site and once it's up and loaded with your content, you can now start to query it for data that you don't host.

That's a very interesting idea that I hadn't considered. So basically site owners could host their own nodes that only index their own website. But since the nodes can communicate the end result is an index of many different websites.

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

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That’s what I mean by non-sensitive stuff. I don’t care if someone inserts ads or changes stuff. I’ll switch ISPs if they do that. If some intermediate network does it, I’ll route around them. For stuff like this, I don’t care. There’s a whole class of traffic I don’t care about, like this guy’s prototype or your mom’s blog or whatever. And I like segregating stuff I care about vs stuff I don’t. Also note that with S…

I don't totally understand your reasoning. There is no downside to using SSL encryption and its completely free for websites to install it. On the other hand, there are downsides to not using it (which have been previously mentioned).

There are downsides, but I don’t think any massive. I don’t know OP’s hosting situation, but there may be limitations there. Although even the most basic hosts use letsencrypt nowadays.

But I think the most obvious downside is that OP is the only one working on this and any time spent working out ssl is time away from feature development. SSL is not a key feature of OP’s product so there may be other features more important.

Simplicity is an important design principle. There are many things that have “no downside [other than cost to set up and maintain].” but have no clear value driver.

It’s quite possible that all the important stuff gets built out before users make the value of ssl really clear.

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

#129

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I agree—naming is deeply underrated, and it's not at all too late! Just choose something abstract and appealing, or a simple noun without any weird associations.

"Just choose something" Did you see that South Park episode where they try to pick a name for their startup but all names are taken? It's very, very funny. So yeah, I want the perfect name for this. What _is_ the perfect name?

What about "unheavy search" ? Synonym for light, but very uncommon as far as I can tell. It's not beautiful or elegant, but it's also not confusing and making me think of gogo dancers. Best I could come up with in 5 minutes.

Re: Show HN: Didyougogo – An Altavista slayer

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In addition to users submitting articles, is there a reason this doesn't have a spider of its own based off something like the Google zeitgeist to seed some topics? This project looks neat, I think first experiences with it would be much more improved if you could seed it with some content. Maybe this could run my search with other search engines to compare and gain insights.

"is there a reason this doesn't have a spider" Yes, server capacity. Once I have a better hosting situation I'll start crawling. Thank you, I've tried to be neat this time around. With regards to full-text search, the didyougogo search engine should be able to replace elasticsearch (which is laughable relevance-wise in my eyes) or solr, once the alpha-bugs are gone.

Makes sense re:crawling.

Maybe a few sites could be crawled and indicate some sample searches that could be run in the meantime.

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