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Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #110

Nice design but how do I use your icons? Do I manually have to download every single SVG? You seem to have a collection feature, which requires some mouse acrobatics and a lot of clicks and patience, but even there it's not possible to export multiple icons to an iconfont whatsoever.

You can multi-select and download too or get it via github/figma.

https://github.com/webalys-hq/streamline-vectors/blob/main/R...

https://www.figma.com/community/file/1063138616574654762

We still recommend using the app just because we keep improving icons frequently.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #87

Any way to download the whole set? What keeps me using Font Awesome is the npm packages and ease of integration into frontend frameworks. This set it seems you need to download each icon you want to use, copy into project &c.

We did have an NPM package a few months ago but had to deprecate it. You can search and multi-select the icons you need.

Here's a quick gif on how to do that: https://twitter.com/streamlinehq/status/1488139311128391683

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with the alphabet. Someone has to teach you what A means and how is it pronounced. That is quite a normal task in human civilization, we do not come out of the womb pre-programmed to be literate.

I told someone who uses a phone most hours of the day for decades to click the hamburger menu. "What?" I said the 3 lines at the top in the corner. "Oh wtf? I never knew there was a menu there." In marketing the goal is to, every step of the way, not lose customers. Basically: You want to sell stuff or attempt to teach stuff? If a simple hamburger already is More than 0% wont be able to see the little house as a link…

And for audiences who don't know English, "home" can be translated to their language.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #110

Nice design but how do I use your icons? Do I manually have to download every single SVG? You seem to have a collection feature, which requires some mouse acrobatics and a lot of clicks and patience, but even there it's not possible to export multiple icons to an iconfont whatsoever.

You can multi-select and download too or get it via github/figma. https://github.com/webalys-hq/streamline-vectors/blob/main/R... https://www.figma.com/community/file/1063138616574654762 We still recommend using the app just because we keep improving icons frequently.

May I ask why you can't download it from your collection page, it would make the most sense to me.

Thanks for the links! I didn't even know it was hosted on github as your main site doesn't link to it.

I tried the Streamline Icons plugin for figma, but it doesn't work: "Oh no! An error has occurred. The dev team has been notified."

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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I have learned to stay away from open-core icon sets. It seems like they are doing a very nice balancing act where the icons you need later on happen to be in the paid section. I also dislike this is promoted as an open source icon set. This is a commercial product providing free samples. By design, it has a funnel of free / 'open source' users of which some will be turned into customers. Finally, it's amazing to me…

If this became popular and thus a marketplace it would have extra value being able to describe the you want an icon to represent 'idea' in the style of 'example' and be able to run a mini-contest with a winning submission purchase.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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I have learned to stay away from open-core icon sets. It seems like they are doing a very nice balancing act where the icons you need later on happen to be in the paid section. I also dislike this is promoted as an open source icon set. This is a commercial product providing free samples. By design, it has a funnel of free / 'open source' users of which some will be turned into customers. Finally, it's amazing to me…

> it's amazing to me as a programmer how commercial minded designers are in tech While the criticism of this being called "open source" is somewhat valid. The suggestion that people creating usable graphics for the community should do so for free is a little frustrating. It's a bit like the memes where designers/photographers/ect are asked to do work for "exposure". The devaluation of creative output is quite sad, pe…

> While the criticism of this being called "open source" is somewhat valid. The suggestion that people creating usable graphics for the community should do so for free is a little frustrating.

It's a weird balancing act. At the end of the day though, everything on the internet is a race to the bottom; nothing beats free. Of course, you don't have to make your work freely available, if you think that your contributions stand on their own merits then you can of course charge a fee. Here's the thing, though: 99% of the time, developers will completely skip over your product even if the free alternative is decidedly worse. For example:

> The vast majority of people who "create" (rather than contribute to) an open source projects are doing so for some sort of "commercial" reason.

Au contraire, just look at Linux, an OS that was designed as a passion project by One Guy and the Internet. It was developed by people who cared, and thought they could create a better system for free. Commercial purposes appropriated it, not the other way around. This is the case for a number of OSS: before people even contribute to an open-source project, it has to be someone's proof-of-concept, someone's toy project. History simply doesn't align with this claim, it takes a lot of Freudian contrivances to make it true.

> I also find this frustrating as an attitude towards open source, the "open core" concept is completely valid and isn't an argument to fork.

Then use your own license. Of course, then it likely wouldn't be considered open-source, but if you're not comfortable letting your community take control of your project then you probably shouldn't use a license that explicitly allows for exactly that. Source-available licenses will assuage your security-minded customers while deterring those pesky contributors and passionate freeloaders from appropriating your hard work.

> When picking a foundation to build a business on, the advantages of picking one where there is a commercial organisation supporting the project as a core of their own business model is well known.

Of course it is. Money follows money. Your priorities as a software salesman are not the same as your priorities as a software user. That disparity is what drives the misery that makes up the modern commercial software landscape. It's the reason why the whole dream of "open source projects where the core team find a way to commercialise it in a sustainable way" doesn't really exist, and certainly isn't championed. Your goal can either be to empower your users at all costs, or to monetize your product. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

What makes me mad is watching people appropriate the ideals of Free Software for commercial purposes. The only people you're fooling is users, the developers worth their salt won't even give you the time of day if you're peddling some contrived licensed crapware. Every piece of software you listed at the bottom has openly-licensed alternatives, explicitly because there are droves of people who have nothing to gain from paying for the same thing they could get for free.

It's a free world, and ultimately your choice how you choose to license your work. Truly great work transcends these petty concerns with what your users will think and what commercial alternatives exist. Nothing, and I mean *nothing* beats free.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #26

Oops, the HN audience really likes icons.

"Have no reasonable and reliable way to determine what they mean." Except for wide practice? How many people who work with mobile phones cannot really determine what the icon for Wi-Fi means? "So, just suggesting that the Roman alphabet was a step forward from icons and returning to icons is a step backwards." Backward and forward with respect to what? Writing language down in an alphabet is more precise, but only ot…

Recently I saw a claim that the most difficult language in the world to learn was Mandarin and the reason was the written version is all icons.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #26

Oops, the HN audience really likes icons.

But we never took that step forward fully. We are constantly using icons in real life (trafic signs is one example) when we want to communicate small dose of information, to everyone, in short amount of time. That's why we use icons - changing taskbar into list of words works only until there is enough space, and even then is more annoying then just finding instantly recognizable picture.

The OP was talking about hundreds or thousands of icons -- tough to have an easy way to have meanings for all of those. Also the OP showed some icons -- it was not at all obvious what the meanings were.

Right, for an icon, commonly, hovering the mouse over the icon causes the display of a word or two or so of English that defines the icon. So, I'm suggesting, just use the word or two of English instead of the icon.

Re: Show HN: Open-core icon sets that took me 12 years to create

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post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can multi-select and download too or get it via github/figma. https://github.com/webalys-hq/streamline-vectors/blob/main/R... https://www.figma.com/community/file/1063138616574654762 We still recommend using the app just because we keep improving icons frequently.

May I ask why you can't download it from your collection page, it would make the most sense to me. Thanks for the links! I didn't even know it was hosted on github as your main site doesn't link to it. I tried the Streamline Icons plugin for figma, but it doesn't work: "Oh no! An error has occurred. The dev team has been notified."

Agree, we should add the links on the main site so it's clearer. But, it seems like a step back if you need to use figma file or github to search when you can use our app.

The figma plugin works on my end. I've asked the dev team to look into it but in the meantime can you recheck on your end if the error persists?

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