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Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by sosodev »

davidkarolyi wrote: post #72
ankit84 wrote: post #12

It isn't just developer experience. - Can I trust you? - Where are your company credentials? - What's the business continuity plan? - What's your support? Sending an email to hi@ may not work, when my application is dead because of some bug at your end.

Yeah you addressed the elephant in the room. Obviously it's a brand new product, with 0 reputation. As with every new product at the begining I expect bugs and disruptions, but IMO the product is simple enough to get it right quickly. FILE0 a simple layer on top of R2, so for reliability and HA is majorly dependant of their system. You can trust me as much as any random guy on the internet. For a big cloud provider y…

It seems like they’re asking you to write out your plans and what makes you trustworthy on the website. Talking to people 1:1 won’t solve that problem.

Saying “you can’t trust me” isn’t a good look for a SaaS.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by sosodev »

lbotos wrote: post #100
sosodev wrote: post #99

Why isn’t your pricing metered? Flat rate for storage generally feels scammy and the enterprise “contact us” really confirms that for me.

Not OP but scammy is a bit harsh here. I do agree, metered would be cool, but for v1 I'm not surprised to see the pricing as such.

The OP has already stated that this is a fairly thin wrapper around R2. They’re charging 6x the R2 metered rate for a tier that most users will only consume a fraction of.

That kind of pricing seems distinctly unfair.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

davidkarolyi wrote: post #40
forgotmypwlol wrote: post #11

This looks like exactly what I’ve wanted on more than one occasion. I hope it sticks around.

Good to hear! Initially I built it for myself without the intention to publish, but good to hear I'm not the only one has big-cloud provider fatigue.

I'd probably use that, but the odds of me remembering it next time I need it is going to be approaching zero.

If I were you, I'd dedicate all your efforts on getting into the Vercel integrations page.

That's where I would re-find it, and probably more likely your user base. (scrappy js apps that don't care more than just getting something working and released)

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

#105

Post by utku-0 »

I personally don’t see the value of $2.50 (S3) versus $12 (you) (for 100 GB). Especially for file storage, who knows when you’re going to close up shop and take my data with it?

I should be able to store my data where I want to. If you wanted to wrap a service around S3, Backblaze, or whatever, maybe sell the convenience instead of selling storage?

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by davidkarolyi »

utku-0 wrote: post #105

I personally don’t see the value of $2.50 (S3) versus $12 (you) (for 100 GB). Especially for file storage, who knows when you’re going to close up shop and take my data with it? I should be able to store my data where I want to. If you wanted to wrap a service around S3, Backblaze, or whatever, maybe sell the convenience instead of selling storage?

Note that unlike FILE0, S3 not only charges for storage, but for write requests, read requests, network bandwidth, and some less obvious niche things.

So it's not a 1-1 comparison.

If you don't see the value in this extra convinience you should stay with your current service! The goal of FILE0 is not to replace these big players, but to provide an option to folks who just want to get things up and running quickly and don't want to think about infrastructure.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

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Post by immibis »

leononame wrote: post #52
immibis wrote: post #2

It suffers the usual effect as seen in eg. Wayland. You think the problem is simple and make a new protocol that's simple. Then you find complexity in the problem and solve it with complexity in the solution. Then your protocol becomes as complex as the one you're replacing. There are reasons S3 does all these things. ACLs, for example? How do you control who can access a file you uploaded? Also, it costs about 20 ti…

Is that really true about Wayland? I'm no expert on the subject matter, just a regular Linux user. From skimming the discussions, however, Wayland is touted as a simpler alternative to X because it comes without 25 years of baggage and bolted on things that turned X11 into a complex beast. Also, the security model of Wayland is often praised. All in all, I had the impression that while a lot of things are WIP, Waylan…

Yes, it's true about Wayland. It started as a project to "let's just send pixels to the screen and remove the rest" and then it discovered why the rest existed, and reimplemented much of it in a more annoying or at least equally annoying ways.

Re: Show HN: File0 – An easier way to manage files in serverless apps

#110

Post by SahAssar »

ryanisnan wrote: post #98
SahAssar wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the file already exists, it is overriden. So any one of my users could overwrite or delete my other users files? Seems like this is not really thought through.

But you... control the file names... You can overwrite contents in most other file systems easily.

But this library is supposed to also be a client-side library, right? I think as soon as you start doing all of the auth checks for CRUD, etc. it becomes almost as complex as the alternatives.

If the point is just a "everyone can do everything" bucket then that isn't too hard on any of the current blob storage providers.

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