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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We already tried to push Microsoft, sadly have they been not very helpful. Still trying to get in contact with somebody that can actually make a difference. After all, are we also not asking for a hundred machines. Can really not imagine that they can not somehow make the resources we require available.

I'll ask again what the person above asked: do you have a TAM. If you don't you're at a big disadvantage.

Sorry, missed that. No, we do not.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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This is not as rare as public clouds may lead people to believe. I have had to move workloads around since AWS began (even between public clouds on occasion). In particular, GPU availability has been a continuing problem. Unlike interchangeable x64 / arm64 instances with some adjustments based on the new core and ram count... if no GPU instances are available then I simply cannot run the job. AMD's improved support h…

GPUs are better run in your own office. All cloud providers charge much, much more for GPUs than if you run a local machine. Cloud GPUs are also a lot slower than state of the art consumer GPUs. Cloud GPUs: much slower, less available, much more expensive.

Say you want 100 GPUs all inter connected to your multi petabyte data lake that’s being fed by your production workload.

Sure you could buy all that equipment but I’d wager it’s cheaper, more agile, and greater velocity from it being in the cloud

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter the provider, their best practices all say to be multi-region.

Def not true with AWS, unless you reach a particular scale. Not for product market fit. My technology choices would be fully managed services so I could focus on my actual business.

Read the "Well Architected" paper. Go multi-region.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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I am sorry to say but at this point Azure is so f’ed up I think it should only be considered after AWS and GCP.

The documentation is terrible and the Azure portal is so slow and laggy I can’t even believe it. Not to mention how unreliable their stack is.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Ran into a similar issue last year in the East US region. We contracted support and they gave a similar response. From my understanding talking to people who use AWS and GCP this isn't uncommon across cloud platforms.

While we could've just swapped a deployment parameter to deploy to another region, we opted to just use a different SKU of VMs for a short period and switch back to the VMs when they were available again.

We haven't seen issues since.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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This is nothing new, Azure has been having capacity problem for over a year now[1]. Germany is not the only region affected at all, it's the case for a number of instance types in some of their larger US regions as well. In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them. The biggest advice I can give is 1. keep trying and grabbing c…

> In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them. ... wait, what? How are they defining 'reserved'?

RI are a billing concept (discounted rates for long term commitment).

Dedicated capacity exists, but it’s different (compute reservation groups or dedicated hosts).

You can combine CRG/DH with RI for the desired effect, although IMO it’s a bit confusing.

(Azure employee)

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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While you're at it at making your "infrastructure as code" cloud agnostic perhaps take a look at tools like Terraform (the only one I'm familiar with). I've just started the work of defining whatever we need to provision in their notation with the objective that it can be done with a single push of a button in the future.

There is nothing “cloud agnostic” about using Terraform. Anyone who says this has no experience actually trying to implement it.

Terraform has different providers for each cloud provider and the code is not transferable any more than saying if you use Python to script your infrastructure it will be transferable.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Oof, that sucks and I feel for you. That said... > setting up in a new region would be complicated for us. Sounds to me like you've got a few weeks to get this working. Deprioritize all other work, get everyone working on this little DevOps/Infra project. You should've been multi-region from the outset, if not multi-cloud. When using the public cloud, we do tend to take it all for granted and don't even think about t…

“Being multicloud from the outset” is a very silly idea for most use cases.

The way to get more from most cloud is by becoming a partner, not just a customer. And the way to do that is increase dependency and usage.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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People saying "shame on you for not being multi-region" are missing the point: This is a German company with German customers subject to German data residency laws. For them to store German data in a region besides Germany requires getting informed consent from the "data subject", who must be "pre-informed about the potential risks involved in cross-border data transfer". [1] This is why Azure has a dedicated German…

Time to sign up for AWS or GCP, then. If you're using kubernetes anyway, you'll be fine with the switch.

Says someone who has never done a large migration of any type…

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Message to cloud providers: List what you do you have available so we can choose. Do not force users to randomly guess and be refused until eventually finding something available.

Why would they make any promises, or be upfront about their resources at the risk of becoming less attractive compared to competitors with more resources? It’s not like many people are shunning the cloud for that reason today (although maybe they should).

Your price point and the clouds margin is tied to not sitting on lots of unused instances. you want there to be adequate capacity not excessive capacity
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