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Re: Ask HN: What mindset change made the biggest positive change for you?

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Post by Viliam1234 »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #70
HorizonXP wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jordan Peterson mostly did this for me, and I feel precisely the same way about his viewpoints. You have to have a critical mind to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Yes, I got into Peterson a few years back when there wasn't much politics around his work then I became more and more confused about what he was actually saying and now I just avoid it as it seems to be too political. I wish he'd stuck to psychology. His deplatforming from Twitter was interesting, because about a month before he had sworn of the platform and said he was only going to post for promotional material etc…

This is probably a mistake many people do when they become famous. They cannot accept that after some time, people are moving to a different topic, abandoning them. Now they must insert themselves into the new topic in order to remain relevant. But unlike the old topic, where they had some impressive mastery, in the new topic they are about as knowledgeable as a random person on internet; they just repeat someone else's edgy opinions, and try to back them with their previous authority.

When I hear Peterson talking about mythology, he seems unique and interesting. When I hear Peterson talking about... whatever is the current hot topic... it's not too different from what idiots around me are saying all day long.

Re: Ask HN: What mindset change made the biggest positive change for you?

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Post by thevagrant »

HorizonXP wrote: post #53
davidguetta wrote: post #31

This one is going to be controversial, but as much as I despise misogyny, the motivational videos which I watched out of curiosity of Andrew Tate are quite powerful. You are feeling bad ? Get in shape, work more. Do the thigs you have been trying to avoid doing. Feeling depressed / suicidal ? No youtube / reels, do 1h of kickboxing or fitness everyday, sleep well. No excuses. Ever. Your mind IS stronger that you thin…

Jordan Peterson mostly did this for me, and I feel precisely the same way about his viewpoints. You have to have a critical mind to separate the wheat from the chaff.

The unfortunate part is if you mention Peterson to anyone they automatically judge you, because there has been so much hysteria about the guy in media/social media. I got down voted, I want to clarify this is something I experienced. I don't even follow Peterson closely. I did find one of his books helpful but mentioning that to a colleague in one discussion led to a strange situation where some colleagues believed they knew what I thought on a vast range of topics without even talking to me.

Re: Ask HN: What mindset change made the biggest positive change for you?

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

Radical Acceptance[1] combined with what I call Constructive Catastrophizing.

Catastrophizing is essentially thinking up worse and worse possible consequences of all sorts of events, choices, etc. Very common in depression cases, it tends to mean that the sufferer will think of the worst possible outcome of anything that could happen. Constructive Catastrophizing is taking a natural tendency to catastrophize and continuing it: what's the actual worst that could happen? Would I die? If I die, in the grand scheme of the Earth, is it really that bad? Almost certainly not, the Earth is a 10^21 tonne ball of iron. So it probably doesn't matter that much. And I probably won't die from . Etc.

[1] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pieces-mind/201207/r...

Re: Ask HN: What mindset change made the biggest positive change for you?

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Post by davidguetta »

Mezzie wrote: post #80
davidguetta wrote: post #31

This one is going to be controversial, but as much as I despise misogyny, the motivational videos which I watched out of curiosity of Andrew Tate are quite powerful. You are feeling bad ? Get in shape, work more. Do the thigs you have been trying to avoid doing. Feeling depressed / suicidal ? No youtube / reels, do 1h of kickboxing or fitness everyday, sleep well. No excuses. Ever. Your mind IS stronger that you thin…

It's weird that the dudes who go all in on preaching the self-help/motivation circuit do drift into misogyny eventually. I think it's a marketing thing: It's self-help but for MEN because self-help is really feminized for whatever reason and tapping into dating resentment is such an easy way to get/retain an audience.

The reason is that if you wanna be a player, being somewhat misogynyistic is a mindset / attitude that works well in practice.

A large bunch of girls (kinda sadly) respond well to that even though that doesnt help to build strong relationships or meeting high quality women.

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