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> After all these years, Android phones still feel like cheap plastic to me, and the interface feels cheaply put together. This feels like a horribly dishonest sentence to start with. There are loads and loads of quality, well-built products in this world and many of them are even Android phones. It will take you minutes to find them if you just use Google.
I'm not being facetious here but I have no idea what you mean by "apple quality". I've been using Macbook Pros for a long time. In my opinion "Apple Quality" died way back in 2013, possibly 2015. After that, they started introducing user-hostile phones, laptops, etc. The touchbar is a travesty and now you have to pay more money to have a normal experience. The feeling of the laptops and aesthetics are nice but the pa…
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> Maybe the most realistic answer is that everyone else has seen what Apple made, and doesn't want to build a locked-down vertical ecosystem Yes because other companies care about “freedom” and your ability to run your gnu tool chain. > Trying to sell a device as locked-down as the iPhone in 2022 will rightfully get you laughed out of the room. What bubble are you living in?
> Yes because other companies care about “freedom” and your ability to run your gnu tool chain. All companies don't give a shit about user freedom, that's the entire reason why GNU exists. It exists outside of these corporate interests and gives people a platform to do their work away from the horrors of beaurocratic bikeshedding and pointless roadblocks. MacOS is simply not the best operating system for my software…
And most of the Linux contributors are large tech companies…
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For the first two years until Google and Samsung stop updating it.
Both Google and Samsung have extended the support. I don't think it is at the same number of years as Apple though.
That and the idea that lacking a feature is much better than having an early but not yet great version of a feature. Apple are very good at pointing at their great features and getting away with lacking some others without that being a problem.
Maybe try... a good Android phone? This question is silly. The Pixel or any top-end Samsung is equivalent or better than the iPhone in hardware. The Android and iOS user interfaces are similar enough that it's mostly personal preference and familiarity.
Yeah, Samsung has been doing an amazing job innovating with foldable phones which are sharply rising in sales (despite commanding prices higher than Apple phones).
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OP, this reply to your question ought to give you some insight: many people simply can't tell the difference. And if you can't tell the difference, you certainly won't budget resources towards making Apple-quality products. Then you'll spend years wondering why Apple has such ridiculous profit margins before coming to the erroneous conclusion that it must just be everyone else that's wrong.
This is a weird take. I can certainly tell all sorts of differences between Apple and non-Apple products. A short list of the major things that I think set Apple-quality apart: Zero effort towards backward-compatibility or longevity, just force users to buy new hardware constantly. Actively hostile towards hardware interoperability, just force users to buy adapters. Actively hostile towards independently developed so…
This can't be taken seriously as a comment given that iPhones are typically supported with software upgrades for twice as long as Android phones.
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> Apple produces garbage products. That's pure Apple bashing BS. It could be refuted in so many ways, but I'll pick an easy one. Apple silicon Macbooks Pros. They have no competition. The nearest competition you can find needs to be plugged into the mains, and even then it doesn't perform as well as Apple.
I personally wont buy into macs walled garden for M1, I think a lot of technically competent people agree with me. In exchange for a superior chip I get an user-hostile experience and lock-in. Hard pass. Apple has first mover advantage. It won't be long before everyone is running M1-like chips and Apple will be back to making the same consumer nonsense they are now. Thats why I didn't mention. It's a big selling poin…
It may be a cultivated garden, but there are no walls. You can go download, build, restore, or otherwise use the software you like.
I used a very expensive 2019 Intel Macbook Pro, and then an M1, not even the pro line. There was a big difference, the M1 build times were half and that turned directly into better productivity.
Maybe try... a good Android phone? This question is silly. The Pixel or any top-end Samsung is equivalent or better than the iPhone in hardware. The Android and iOS user interfaces are similar enough that it's mostly personal preference and familiarity.
This is a lie that often gets repeated over and over, but I have firsthand anecdotal experience of how this is not true. My mother has no formal education and when she was given an Android she struggled to do basic things. Once she got an iPhone it was night and day and an entire world was opened to her and she was able to use and discover her phone with almost no handholding. That has still not changed with the late…
My mother is 84, she has an android phone that after 3 years still cannot manage to do anything other than make and answer calls. She hates it. Six months ago I gave her my old iPad Pro. Spent an hour showing her the basics and now she zooms with her Bible study group, manages her email, browses the internet, FaceTimes her grandkids, watches streaming, listens to music. She loves it. She asked me recently if iPhones were similarly easy to use, a let her use an old 8 we had. She’s getting an iPhone in a couple months once her phone plan is due for an upgrade.
What I think people need to realize, despite the power in smartphones nowadays, they are consumer level devices and with a consumer level device, you need to make it usable for the lowest common denominator users (like my mom). This is where android fails as compared to iOS IMO. A walled garden sometimes is a good thing.
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OP, this reply to your question ought to give you some insight: many people simply can't tell the difference. And if you can't tell the difference, you certainly won't budget resources towards making Apple-quality products. Then you'll spend years wondering why Apple has such ridiculous profit margins before coming to the erroneous conclusion that it must just be everyone else that's wrong.
This is a weird take. I can certainly tell all sorts of differences between Apple and non-Apple products. A short list of the major things that I think set Apple-quality apart: Zero effort towards backward-compatibility or longevity, just force users to buy new hardware constantly. Actively hostile towards hardware interoperability, just force users to buy adapters. Actively hostile towards independently developed so…
Is that why you can install iOS 16 (the most recent version) on an iPhone 8 from 2017?