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Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/505467/can-i-store-the-g... you dont need to copy files, just tell git to store its data in another dir

Wow thank you so much for this. There's some stuff I've been working on which I want to sync to Dropbox as I type but without the .git being synced too. Up until now I've just had to deal with the .git files being synced with Dropbox. But now it looks like I finally have a way of moving the repo!

Wow, that's a great idea!

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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On my last job, a new manager called me for a meeting on Friday 4PM. I spent the whole month on an extremely stressful project. The meeting was about an app that integrates credit card payments, billets and bank account on a terminal that is going to be available to the general public. The deadline? 11PM of the same day. Final version. From 0 to 100% in 6 hours. I said that it was impossible. He said that I was incap…

If I was in that situation, I'd do some form of: What do you want by 11PM? A design? Really, you want the whole thing completed? Is this some kind of a joke? (Depending on relationship) Walk out the door without saying a word, "I quit," or even better, just stand up and say, "Everyone who thinks this is absurd walk out the door with me right now." Why: What I've learned is that employees ignoring an unreasonable boss…

You lose benefits and the possibility of taking legal action against the (former) employer if you quit.

Even in "at will" employment states you can sue for unlawful termination.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I'm the sole developer working on my current project, which is overhauling a massive DOS era application, as well as overhauling an early 2000s era CRM/business management tool, that almost all of our work happens through. Did I mention that the DOS application is a HIPAA billing application that must meet all HIPAA guidelines as well as write EDI X12 billing files? I'm very junior, been coding for ~5 years, 3 profes…

This smells like you are being set up to take the fall for something. Possibly something with really serious personal legal consequences. This is way, way worse than being underpaid or working for abusive jerks. No way it's worth it, I'd say quit now, even if your immediate alternative is working at Wal-Mart or something.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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> The project wasn't ready for a deadline. I really like that way of looking at deadlines and project lifecycles. I haven’t ever heard the relationship expressed that way.

I interpreted it as "the project wasn't ready [in time for] a deadline". But I agree, the concept of a project that is somehow too immature or unprepared for a deadline is though provoking.

If the project isn't read for a deadline, then it's not product development, it's research. (And I feel I have some standing to say this!) Phrasing it that way may help get people's lightbulbs to go off.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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This is one of the reason I hate about PIP( performance improvement program). They set ridiculous goals for you in very short amount of time that nobody can possibly complete, then fire you on grounds of incompetence. A friend of mine who works in Facebook told me that an employee committed suicide due to the pressure of PIP. I suspect that guy was put into PIP due to poor rating (meet most), then was given a ridicul…

It's a sad story; but PIP is really the pink slip; you take it as an advance notice that you're going to be fired, and start looking for jobs. I've heard stories of people completing PIP programs successfully, but quite honestly, I don't get it. Once you got to that point, you're not a good fit to the team and/or they don't appreciate you. Makes no sense to stay. I could understand staying with the company & switchin…

I've never been on one, but I imagine if I was my performance would drop to the absolute minimum. I love my job, but I come first. Hell, I'd even be applying elsewhere and taking interview calls from inside my cubicle.

I was fortunate enough to be part of a couple startups when I was younger that went belly up. I've lived through the fear. I don't have any now. Happiness and work/life balance above all else, even pay; not some manager's unrealistic deadlines.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I worked for a "CTO" who didn't allow us to use version control either. This was from 2007-2010. I am surprised there is a company TODAY that does this, but I guess I shouldn't be. The reasoning behind not using VC was that it "caused more problems than it solved." His solution? Code directly on the production server. Yep. You heard me right. Let me say that one more time. Code directly on the production server. We e…

I'm the GP, on my work account. Yes. That is exactly what we do. It's horrifying.

The good news is that there are fantastically good shops to work for (you should start looking for one), and that you'll have some good stories to tell about the hellmouth that was your first company.

But yeah, get the heck out of there.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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> The project wasn't ready for a deadline. I really like that way of looking at deadlines and project lifecycles. I haven’t ever heard the relationship expressed that way.

I interpreted it as "the project wasn't ready [in time for] a deadline". But I agree, the concept of a project that is somehow too immature or unprepared for a deadline is though provoking.

It's more that the project was immature. If I have a bucket of data and an unknown part of the data is either incorrect or unknown then I can't give a full quote on completion all data in the bucket. Especially if the data accuracy/discovery is contingent on other team members also uncertain of the quality of the data. This will and did lead to burnout.

The bigger issue is that I've been treated by a robot. Just talk to me and quit trying to social engineer a solution out of me or try to make me discover the results you're expecting.

Final note, my supervisor said he really enjoyed working with me the past year, but they're trying to improve the "shitty parts" of the company. Doesn't that make me some of the "shit"?

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I've been working far less than that, but I always take some time between jobs. Currently at the beginning of month 3, and am doing interviews since last week. Take some time and get some sleep dude.

How did you know I am suffering from insomnia lately?

> I'm tired.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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it's a literal stand up so people don't dither. lot easier to become restless standing around than sitting down.

I guess if you drop the facade that it’s supposed to be fast and allow people to sit down, eat breakfast and drink coffee it doesn’t sound that bad (even if it’s still not a productive meeting).

Well, it's supposed to be fast because it's supposed to be done by a small team, of fie or six engineers. If you got fifteen people taking turns it doesn't really work. Even worse when the whole point is for middle management to check your progress, rather than an engineer-only meeting where you can discuss actual technical issues you're having so the more senior members can give you a pointer etc.

Re: Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired?

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I didn't know this format was a thing and am so very excited to discover it. I hope you folks enjoy reading horror stories. I got a job as a Software Engineer in my current company 4.5 years ago; friend-of-a-friend sort of thing. The company had an apparently disastrous piece of software that was their main LOB. They had gone through pretty much every local consulting agency - at least once, on a few occasions they h…

Will echo other comments and say that I enjoyed this post. IANAL, however, in all seriousness... I think you should talk to a personal lawyer about your situation ASAP, especially now that you posted this publicly. HIPAA is not to be trifled with and now you've shared that you have knowledge of a breach. You've also provided enough detail in this post that (if found and traced back to you) could be used as proof that…

I think you should also seriously consider blowing the whistle on this. Turn government's witness.
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