Consider: you may become depressed, unfulfilled, and unhappy in this life. I had a position that was around halfway to what you want, government database coding, and I was miserable. I think becoming fully "chilled out" is ideal, because being "half chilled" and half "in-the-hotseat" gave me whiplash a few times. I developed lazy habits over time, my work output suffered, and all that free-time on my hobby wasn't as…
Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?
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Majority of my team works 4 days/week, but do so by working 4x9 hours (36 total) instead of 5x8 hours (40 total). We don't really do less work (or take longer for projects). Some observations: * The folks working 4 days are a bit less likely to pick-up 'side activities' (e.g. help organise an external event, lead some of the recruiting efforts, etc.), because a day away takes out 25% of active time in one go. * Ratio…
Nice to see a reply from a managers perspective. That being said, 4x9 is not considered part-time in NL.
On real part-time: I think once it moves below 3 days a week it works better for transactional roles. E.g. I know dentists that work for a few days per week in a practice, people with 8-16h per week in chat-support, 3-day/wk secretaries, etc. Most of these roles measure their work in calls/appointments/hours rather than longer running projects though.
But with the right culture it can be done in IT as well, I think Gumroad is a good example.
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For many years my partner and I operated in the same way. I paid our rent, utilities and food while she spent on her hobbies and saved. I was not unhappy during this time because I didn't want much. A few years ago though, I became a bit more financially aware after having my first soul crushing job and realizing I couldn't rely on work to produce income in the same "easy" way I had when I was younger. The emotional…
"...having my first soul crushing job and realizing I couldn't rely on work to produce income in the same "easy" way I had when I was younger. The emotional cost had become too high." I feel exactly like this. My wife has basically changed what she wants (or stopped hiding it) now that we are married. She wants a big fancy house and she wants to live in an suburbanized and expensive area. She originally told me she w…
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#574Try being a product manager of a web service at a big corporation. I stopped and went back to programming because of how little there was to do. You said you don't want to manage people, but in my experience all I had to do was: - E-mail calendar invites for a meeting - Show up to said meeting - State the topic, point to an engineer at random and say, "What do you think?" - Zone out for the rest of the meeting, zonin…
Thanks for sharing this. I had a good laugh. I both agree your role is necessary but also makes it feel like it’s a bit dysfunctional, that people can’t have effective meetings on their own.
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#575Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?
#576I had a data science position with a large non-tech company. It did B2B sales, and had a giant office for us, done up in brushed nickel and Edison light bulbs. The rest of the company was designed in standard cheap-cubicle format, but they took visitors (i.e. sales targets) through to see the data science team, so we got the fancy layout. After working there a few months, I realized that I was also there as part of t…
> My work didn't matter (it took them 4 months to stand up a server for a project I was working on) and my boss didn't understand what I did. Very cush. Could have gotten away with a few hours a week of real work, though I still had to physically be there most of the time. I left for more money, plus ultimately having to surreptitiously waste 35 hours a week turns out to be quite draining. Yup. I've occasionally land…
Sounds like an interesting and potentially insightful story...
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The backhaul VOIP telco space has TONS of companies that meet these criteria.
I'm curious, could you be more specific?
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#578Re: Ask HN: What tech job would let me get away with the least real work possible?
#579A start would be to ignore a lot of things said about tech on HN. It is a solid source of pain, suffering and time wasting (I like it, but that's another story). Forget about all this modern tech stuff no-one is asking for. You can work for companies / clients who need stuff automated; they don't care about k8s, jamstack, react, docker, service mesh, etc etc. You can hack shit together with php + mysql, put in on a v…
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#580How many times can you write the same stuff on different PowerPoint slides? How often can you help an organisation to reorganise their marketing campaign structure (that all perform the same anyways)? How often can you reengineer the same problem over and over again and always end up with roughly the same output?
That's just all precious time down the drain. Your time is so much better invested doing things that actually make you happy: Spend time in nature, push yourself in sports activities you enjoy, discover new places around where you live, start gardening, read a bunch of books, learn how to cook, or improve your DIY skills. Whatever helps make you you - that's how we should be spending our time!
I work in IT consulting and here's what I found works for me to some extent:
1. Be knowledgable in your field of work, courteous, and command some amount of respect towards you - be there when people need you (but don't be there for them too much, see my third point),
2. Delegate, delegate, delegate. Never offer straight away to take care of stuff for people just because you know you can solve their issue. Verbally, be knowledgable yet unreachable. Compliment others on their skills and delegate right into their smothered egos, and
3. Information asymmetry. You didn't take their call because you were out for a walk - you were on another call with some client, or colleague. You've only found time to respond to their messages or e-mails late in the evening or early morning (late night or early morning e-mails / messages are a great power play in general) because you were relaxing in your backyard - this other project got super busy today so you just didn't find the time! You don't need to end the call right now because you're bored of the conversation or want to go have lunch - you need to end the call right now because there's another call you gotta jump on.
I believe a lot of people really crave interacting with folks that are both knowledgable (once they get a hold of them) and yet appear perpetually busy or overworked. Noticing this pattern and using it to your advantage is one key towards greater personal freedom.