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Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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> "friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it? Another native Carolinian chiming in here (from NC, but similar). These people are friendly if you "pass" as one of them. Be white, wear a trucker cap, don't dress up too fancy, use a southern accent (or at least, don't talk too pretty), don't be gay, don't say a damn thing about politics or religion. Don't drive a Prius or something. You're go…

>"if you 'pass' as one them.." From my point of view you just described the left. Dressing in a suit and tie is not a rarity in the south or rural areas. Being gay isn't some attribute that qualifies for special treatment just because of your sexual preference. Politics also isn't some defining feature, and is WAY too publicized in today's culture. Why does it matter what someone's political view points are? Does tha…

On the one hand, everybody commenting on this post is touting their newly adopted off-the-beaten-path rural-ish community. On the other hand, everyone who lives there is basically a closet racist and homophobe. Which is it?

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Pretty standard answer. "It's great except for those Leftover-Americans."

Well I was born here and have lived here almost my entire life of 50+ years. So I feel pretty qualified to have an opinion on the South.

Nothing has changed in 50+ years?

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Let me give you the scoop on the Carolina's. I'm a developer living in the upstate of SC. I am an agnostic liberal which makes me a rarity but I was born here so I can go under the radar thanks to my deep melodious southern accent. Pros - Great climate 10 out of 12 months - Friendly people - Lots of outdoor activities - Beautiful beaches (Fripp Island and Kiawah especially) - Low cost housing (altho going up rapidly)…

"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

In my experience, the south is caricaturized and somewhat overblown, both the good parts and the bad parts.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Just pick any mid sized US city and pick a suburb that has a Main Street type of area and it’s not in high COL area. I would look for ones with fiber internet available. The houses should not be anywhere near $1m when you do this. Avoid high tax states like CA or NY. I imagine you have other factors like distance from family, area of the country, weather, proximity to mountains/beach/parks/major metro for things to d…

> Avoid high tax states like CA or NY. Why? This sounds (especially given the two specific states named) more like an impression from partisan media than practical advice. Those two states do indeed happen to have comparatively high tax burden and metro areas with high real estate costs. But the relationship isn't well correlated. Maine and Minnesota are "high tax" states with cheap housing, and Alaska has (IIRC) the…

Do you enjoy high taxes? It’s no different than saying “pick a state with good weather.”

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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> You can find data on states by total tax burden (which, sure, is going to depend on your particular assets and flows being taxed). It's not nearly as big a differentiator as you seem to think it is (especially, again, since it's quite minor compared with your federal liabilities) Nonsense. The difference can easily be 10% of gross income. Tax burden estimates are also really bad for tech workers making mid-six figu…

> Nonsense. The difference can easily be 10% of gross income. The use of "easily" is maybe a bit spun, that's at the outer edge of the distribution (e.g. moving from NY to TN, Seattle to Cleveland might net you quite a bit less). But sure, that's about right. A 10% change in income is really worth an unqualified "avoid these states" recommendation to you? That seems unjustified to me. (Especially since employers alre…

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Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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This is a process problem. The correct order to do things is: pull permit to fix plumbing, that permit will allow you to connect to the city water for testing purposes once you've proven the system will hold pressure (initial inspection), then when you're connected to the water an additional inspection will be done to verify working plumbing, if thats the only outstanding issue you can apply for a certificate of occu…

The city will not issue the permits to do the work. FULL STOP. I literally already have a city water connection and it's costing me a hundred bucks a month just to sit there unused because I can't get the permits to fix the plumbing... So what would you do in that situation?

According to the city website, there is a vacancy in the planning commission. Apply for it, you'll probably have a lot more success getting the permits you need if they see an official making the requests.

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You don't. Gentrifying a place pretty inherently means removing at least some of the people who live there. Why would the people of a small town go for that? Unless you're planning on subsidising the existing residents' lives forever as rent goes up. If you have the money and influence to "gentrify" somewhere... just build a new planned community in the middle of nowhere. The US has plenty of nowhere.

Lol, what? Here is how gentrification works: Nobody gets removed, they just have to leave. It's a subtle distinction but that's how it happens. Poor people don't own anything. Their furniture is mostly stacks of junk that is so bad that it would be hard or impossible to get someone to accept it for free (this is very nearly a tautology, since the poor person got this furniture for free to begin with, and it's was so…

Ehh. Being kicked out of your home is being removed, even if it's perfectly legal. Fixed-term rental contracts are nearly entirely immoral imo.

And while an accurate depiction of how this affects the people who were barely hanging on in the first place, there is a later step, where people who /have/ been renting all their lives in one area find themselves unable to continue to pay rent. You're not necessarily a homeowner if you're not at constant risk of homelessness.

I've seen this while squatting; our neighbours were people who had lived in the same community for 70 years, and their option once the landlord had decided to tear the building down and replace it with "luxury apartments" was far away from everyone they had known all their lives. There were several similar stories in the area.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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My method sure hasn't worked very well... or has it? I was looking for cheap warehouse space to start a business in, and did a nation-wide search for the largest, cheapest building in the entire continental US. I found one that seemed too good to be true. a 220,000 sqft metal warehouse and office complex on 17 acres. I thought the price was a typo at $375k.The agent assured me that the price was correct, and I flew o…

I'm not in the US, but last weekend we had a family gathering and were discussing buying a place in a small village a bit further out from all the city action. On paper it checks out: prices are low, the scenery is beyond fantastic, quiet and you can still drive up to a city or some local town fairly easily. But then we started talking negatives: unemployment, poverty, higher crime rates than you'd like it to be,etc. Unless the place is populated by people of similar socioeconomic status, it's likely to be a tough going from day one.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I went through 6 months of his tweets and, yeah, he either doesn't have a grip on reality, has some sort of mental health issue, or is just constantly trying to run some angle. - Yup, the free energy fonts and conspiratorial claims about video of his fusion reactor being suppressed - It looks like he bought a bunch of people's property for pennies on the dollar, then raised funds from those same people to return thei…

It's very interesting to see how the things I've put out there are interpreted. It feels like looking at myself in a fun-house mirror. There are probably huge pieces of these events that I'm not communicating well, or at all. Thank you for your comment. I'll try to be better at communicating the meanings I intend.

FWIW you don't seem that unhinged to me. Best of luck in that town.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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post #340

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"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

> "friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it? Another native Carolinian chiming in here (from NC, but similar). These people are friendly if you "pass" as one of them. Be white, wear a trucker cap, don't dress up too fancy, use a southern accent (or at least, don't talk too pretty), don't be gay, don't say a damn thing about politics or religion. Don't drive a Prius or something. You're go…

> Also, my people will sometimes act nice to you even if they hate you. If you're here a while you will learn to recognize it.

"Bless your heart"

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