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Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

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Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#51
I really like this 2x2 [0] image [1] as a mental model. I haven't really read much of the writing around this, so no explicit endorsement beyond the conceptual grid.

Directing / Coaching / Supporting / Delegating

I've found these to be good ways to frame tasks (even if only in my own mind) when assigning to others. It forces you to acknowledge how much support you expect the person to need, which you can then match to what really happens, and then adjust. The quadrant that applies will change by person and task.

[0] https://johnkwhitehead.ca/situational-leadership

[1] https://johnkwhitehead.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/situati...

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#52
post #49

Lots of people here kind complaining about bad managers. I tried to be a good manager but its exhausting, you end up doing everything yourself because its easier. I think it might be easier to try to be a bad manager, at least at first. Give deadlines, tell them what you want, and let them figure it out. I dont like giving projects like that but realistically its pretty normal, dont over think it.

“Give deadlines, tell them what you want, and let them figure it out.”

This actually how people should be managed!

This is the problem that needs to solved. These are the constraints. You are empowered to find a solution.

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#53
Well there's a tonne of great books and articles posted here.

There's some simple stuff that seems worth pointing out:

1. You need to do it more often. Education 10%, Exposure 20% and Experience 70% as a rule of thumb for learning.

If you want to be better at managing, then practice managing more. You're not losing time for solo dev work, you are gaining a new skill.

2. Get a close mentor you can shadow for that 20% exposure time.

3. For delegation, practice using CPORT.C – Context. P – Purpose. O – Outcome in terms of quality and quantity. R – Resources. Then get fast at it by creating systems that do it for you. Queues are your friend.

Have fun.

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#54
People tend to forget that managing people is a job in itself.

The number of times you see people promoted to a “manager” with the expectation that they will do that and continue at the same level of IC output is ridiculous.

Management can be and often is full time job.

In your situation you will need to spend more time mentoring and coaching your staff until they learn how you want them to perform.

Give them problems along with the constraints and how success will be measured. Then monitor progress and correct as needed.

This will mean that you have less time to do the work you were originally doing.

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#55
One possibility is while you are still the boss one of the team could become a lead and handle standups, prioritising day to day stuff etc. You role would be people managing still but they are taking on some of the project managing.

I think if you are in charge of people then that is you main job. Coding fits in around it. Some weeks you won’t code.

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#59
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It may be counter intuitive, but from my point of view, when you start managing individual contributors, YOU start working for them. A surprisingly large number of managers think that ICs work for them. This is the single biggest reason why managers are hated so much.

It goes the other way too, plenty of ICs think they work for their manager. How do you convince them otherwise?

Well thats what ics and workers generally speaking are told - that they work for managers. A rather uniquely flawed concept.

Re: Ask HN: How to be a manager? Any good sources for learning how to delegate?

#60

Being an awesome manager is not about delegating, it's a about * Creating the right environment for teams to do their best (See book Leading Teams below). * Being skillful at challenging pre-conceptions. * Coaching people and teams to work in the most effective way. * Communicate, communicate, communicate. * Hiring people who are smarter than you. * And, a difficult one, having honest 1-to-1 with people when they are…

Forgive my ignorance, but how can you possibly coach managers/leaders about leading people when you're neither a manger or even like managing people!?

That's like a nun trying to be a sex therapist.

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