Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging?

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Post by Gunnerhead » Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 2:11 AM UTC

theCrowing wrote: post #21

mactavish88 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get literally nothing from the news search in DuckDuckGo when I search for “clintel” It still seems you assume I have a particular agenda here beyond wanting to have a conversation on the topic.

Now you also play blind... so, you pretend that you didn't see the articles linked below before you pressed the "news" button? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web First Page Results: https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clint... https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-v... https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-clai... https://climatefeedback.org/evaluat…

Can you please not say things such as “you also play blind”? You’re being mean and snarky, completely violating HN guidelines. We can all benefit from kind and helpful interactions, that’s what makes this website great.

“Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.” [1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging?

#42

Post by theCrowing » Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 6:10 AM UTC

Gunnerhead wrote: post #41

theCrowing wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you also play blind... so, you pretend that you didn't see the articles linked below before you pressed the "news" button? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=clintel&t=h_&ia=web First Page Results: https://www.desmog.com/climate-intelligence-foundation-clint... https://insideclimatenews.org/todaysclimate/experts-debunk-v... https://www.thequint.com/climate-change/1200-scientists-clai... https://climatefeedback.org/evaluat…

Can you please not say things such as “you also play blind”? You’re being mean and snarky, completely violating HN guidelines. We can all benefit from kind and helpful interactions, that’s what makes this website great. “Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.” [1] [1] https://news.yc…

If someone argues in good faith I would probably do it but he is clearly trying to gaslight here. Or do you believe DDG is jeopardizing an essential part of their search business just to fuck with him?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging?

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Post by Gunnerhead » Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 6:33 AM UTC

theCrowing wrote: post #42

Gunnerhead wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please not say things such as “you also play blind”? You’re being mean and snarky, completely violating HN guidelines. We can all benefit from kind and helpful interactions, that’s what makes this website great. “Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes.” [1] [1] https://news.yc…

If someone argues in good faith I would probably do it but he is clearly trying to gaslight here. Or do you believe DDG is jeopardizing an essential part of their search business just to fuck with him?

I think we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt and be kind.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging?

#44

Post by theCrowing » Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 9:11 AM UTC

Gunnerhead wrote: post #43

theCrowing wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone argues in good faith I would probably do it but he is clearly trying to gaslight here. Or do you believe DDG is jeopardizing an essential part of their search business just to fuck with him?

I think we should give everyone the benefit of the doubt and be kind.

You are right, it is important to approach them with an open mind and to give others the benefit of the doubt. However, if someone begins to engage in gaslighting tactics, it becomes necessary to confront and challenge their behavior in order to prevent them from manipulating and distorting the conversation. Gaslighting is a harmful and insidious form of manipulation that seeks to undermine the credibility and reality of others, and it is essential to stand up to it in order to maintain the integrity and honesty of the discussion. By actively and assertively addressing gaslighting, we can create a safer and more respectful space for open and honest discourse even if being assertive means writing less candid than usual.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a better model than flagging?

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Post by mactavish88 » Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #37

mactavish88 wrote: post #23

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Maybe just move on with your life and don’t engage with the content if you’re not interested?

They do exactly what you want: engage with you, even though you seem to have already made up your mind about the desired outcome (which you aren't going to get). And then you tell them to move on with their life? That's pretty rude. To me this whole thread looks like a way to social engineer your way around getting your articles flagged in spite of that being the most democratic mechanism to keep HN on track.

Did you perhaps read the primary text of this submission?

It seems like everyone commenting here is totally missing the point of why I submitted this question in the first place and is so fixated on the content of the links I originally submitted that they just can’t see the actual questions I’m asking.

I’m tired of engaging with people who refuse to engage with the actual questions I asked.