Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

news.ycombinator.com

41–50 of 172 posts

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#41
I put all my investment funds into a risk free account that pays just about 30% APR with no front end loads, no commissions, and I can make withdrawals whenever I want at no cost. There's a good chance you can to, it's called "paying down the balance on visa credit card"

i.e. fyi it's generally silly to invest when you have a credit card balance outstanding.

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#42
post #19

See a financial advisor and figure out what plan is right for you. Not only is this question open ended, but answers are and should be tailored to the individuals needs, plans, and long-term goals. To "hack" investing, just focus on figuring out what type of long-term goals you have. 5, 10, 15 years, and retirement, what do you want to have achieved or saved by then. When do you want to retire? Are you wanting to man…

The problem with asking a financial advisor is finding a good one. By the time you've learned enough to know the good from the bad, you may as well DIY and save the fees.

Although, there's definitely value in getting help from specialists in certain areas (estate planning, taxes).

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#43
I make additional contributions above those required to the retirement scheme in Australia similar to 401k. Obviously, this is because the compounded savings in tax are large.

I have share trading accounts for savings I intend to use before retirement. One is for US shares the other for Australian shares.

The main use of this money would be to buy a house (in australia), if and when this ever makes any sense based on NPV calculations. I independently value any investment I make to the best of my ability.

I do not buy and sell assets frequently as I believe the market is probably very efficient on a short term basis (I know I don't know how to beat it). I tend to focus on longer timescale macro trends which I spend an enormous amount of time thinking about (for enjoyment, regardless of investment purpose). I would like to think (at least some) markets are not efficient on longer timescales (but short compared to my lifespan). I do not know if this is true, but I believe it probably is. This timescale is at least 5 years.

I rarely buy individual stocks, but there are some exceptions such as BHP as a proxy for commodities. I tend to buy targeted aggregate securities (ETFs are great) to get exposure to the trends I'm interested in. The less fees the better, so index tracking funds are preferred. I don't trust a random "expert" to be able to beat the market above fees. I know enough people in finance to know the way you get places is ability wear a suit nicely and talk confident (i.e. sell), independent of actual ability.

I rarely make large trades. If I'm moving from one asset (or cash) into another, I'll do so using a number of trades over a number of months.

I'm always diversified on a global basis. I always have some exposure to assets in the currency where my future expenses are likely to be incurred, even when I have a negative outlook on that currency (as is the case currently).

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#44
1. Get an decent amount in _cash_ savings ($10K)

2. Payoff all debts (including house and student loans)

3. Only invest in stock market through IRA's where there is a tax advantage.

3.1 Only invest in company 401(k) to get the match.

3.2 Invest the max in Roths (if you qualify)

3.3 Find an index fund and forget it. You've got better things to do then worry about stock picking. (I suggest Vanguard, it's investor owned).

4. Fund your war chest you started in step one. This is cash you can use for starting your company, investing in real estate, etc.

5. Find something you know about and stick to it. Whether it's real estate, starting software companies, etc.

6. Only buy things you can par for with cash. That includes cars/computers/TVs.

7. Beware the mortgage tax deduction. (Not everyone can deduct the interest/the standard deduction is pretty high already). You need a _lot_ of expenses to itemize. That means you have a lot of mortgage interest || medical bills || etc. This is not a good place to be in financially.

You'll be amazed how much money you can accumulate (even if you are a "wage slave").

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#45
post #37

A Roth IRA, maxed every year, is my main form of "real" investment. I try to put about 75% into index funds and 25% into handpicked stocks, which are my concession to desire to gamble. I don't buy bonds or CDs -- I'm young enough that short-term loss is a non-event, since nothing short of "my children are starving on the street" will induce me to touch the Roth ahead of schedule. Wild volatility doesn't matter becaus…

...I don't buy bonds

A lot of people would argue that even for a young person a portfolio with a small bond allocation is actually less risky with higher returns then a 100% allocation to stocks.

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#46
post #12

Given the abundance of academic research on the subject of the efficient-market hypothesis, I think it is futile and foolish to try to "beat the market" by trying to pick individual stocks that are mispriced. Therefore, I own low-cost index funds and try to own the market as a whole. I do try to shelter as much of my portfolio as possible since taxes reduce returns. I have a 401k, 403b, Roth IRA, Traditional IRA, 457…

You may want to roll some of that into a single account, keeping track of that isn't going to get any easier...

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#48

I have a 401k, Rollover IRA and Roth IRA. I don't max them because for a while, my returns were lower than my student loan interest rates and I felt it be a better use of my money at the time. Until my loans are paid off, I will be sticking with just those 3 retirement accounts. I pick my own ETFs because I'm super type A, but it's based on crowd appeal. So if I find 5 experts recommend an ETF, and it has a low manag…

Why ETFs over mutual funds (such as those with the same holdings)?

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#49
Some people suggest paying off all debt before investing, if X% interest on the debt is greater than %Y expected return on investments. In theory, that's fine; however, if you apply that to Roth/Traditional IRA contributions you have to be aware that they have an annual cap ($5000 for a Roth), and you can only make contributions for a given tax year until April 15 of the following year.

Re: Ask HN: What kind of personal financial investment do you do?

#50
I gave a talk at Ignite Chicago about this. Though I have a 401k, I don't pay much attention to it. I keep it on autopilot, as most people do. The difference is I'm not relying on that for retirement. To do so is foolish I think. I put most of my money into rental property and my own business - two things I have (almost) complete control over.
Post reply on HN