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Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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Bird watching? Ballroom dancing? This has to be a joke, I’ve never met a single person under 60 that does either of these

I don't know about bird-watching, but ballroom dancing is really big in computer science. It was really big in my CS department on the east coast 20 years ago, and it's really big at Stanford now. As far as I understand it, software engineers in the Bay Area have two common hobbies: indoor rock-climbing at Planet Granite and ballroom dancing. I would never have guessed how common they are, but it is what it is. D&D i…

> ballroom dancing is really big in computer science

Lol that’s the absolute polar opposite of what the OP wants. They want to get away from other engineers like them and to meet some different people.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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Well my bro, if you want teh girls, you gotta be the bumblebee visiting flowers or the flower attracting butterflies.

Money? Yeah you could flex a little. But they like other stuff more. And you got a gaping god-sized hole in your life. Women are big into spirituality. Hot ones, nice ones. Get yourself a priestess, mate.

Or you could get rich first, by starting a business, cuz it'll be hard to do that after the kids start coming.

Now, if you want religious suggestions, I can offer you a coder-friendly menu...

But most of all, stop thinking about how you can fix your depression and start thinking about how you can benefit whichever groups you identify with. That will put the light back in your eyes immediately.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#344
Welcome to..real life?

Broken communities and meaningless jobs, surely add to the underlying absurdism of life, but life is fundamentally absurd and lonely, and you are coming to this realization.

Your college experience is a short dose of hedonistic pleasures. The young and attractive bunch you were drinking with are either changing diapers or the unattractive folks you are refusing to dance with.

Accept it, turn inward and get more spiritual and less judgmental. I'd also suggest joining a community but I think you need to get spiritual growth first because you will also judge those communities harshly and get isolated. Dancing community? you'll think old and desperate, cross-fit? shallow and stupid, family? changing diapers, meditation/yoga? weirdos,

Well, all those folks are trying to find a temporary break out of the absurd just like you.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#345
All my 20s and 30s I was desperately searching for a couple and socialization the way you describe.

If you ask for a radical solution, and you're from English-speaking country, my radical suggestion is: go teach English in country like Brazil or Russia, Ukraine, etc, but make sure you stay outside of the capitals, where expats are rare enough. I know some guys who did this, they have social life, are rather important people, and have no reason to come home to be the average Joe.

If that's not an option, like it wasn't for me, manage the probabilities. All hobby groups are places where you have a chance to get some social life/couple. But they differ. Invest less time in those with awkward people, but don't abandon completely -- sometimes friends from there will invite you to other, more interesting social groups.

Eco-, new-urbanism or political activist groups are much better than dance groups, because people go to dance exactly to find a couple, whereas any form of activism filters those out and the share of "normal" people is much higher. (Of course, their age and marital status may vary, so choose appropriately.)

Where you live also matters. A metropolis is very un-social, interactions are awkward, and you must be highly active to just stay in contact with some people. A small town has much more social cohesion, but may make you passive in dating. Something in the middle is better.

Living in suburbia is antisocial, it's better to live in walking distance from places to socialize in a walkable city.

Since you're still looking for a couple, it's better to live near a university where the share of young people is higher. Also, write down when you had dates, or was approached, and what social activities you had then -- it can give insights.

P.S. Therapy works only as painkiller. After couple of meetings therapists open up their stone-age beliefs: NLP, positive thinking, hypnosis, homeopathy.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#346
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I'm an atheist or at best agnostic, but I've met and known many highly intelligent people who are also religious. It's not mutually exclusive.

The real litmus test for high intelligence is if they were not anti-vaxxers and actively sought vaccinations.

Honest question - was this sarcasm?

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#347
> In case someone has any advice beyond finding a hobby...

If you want to meet new people you're going to have to bond around something whether it's a new hobby or an old one. When you're young it's easy, you bond over anything. School, shit jobs, getting high, etc.

When you get older it's tougher. My theory is that because as we get older out time gets more limited so we get more selective. So pick something non-nerdy like sports for example (crossfit, running, hiking). Or maybe work remote from one of those live-in coworking spaces (check out Outsite for example).

I feel you man, I've been there and sometimes still am. My suggestion is do any of the above or reconnect with an old friend and foster that friendship. Having a few good friends goes a long way.

Oh, and for those fun loving 20 something upstairs? You're looking at through rose colored glasses at a brief moment in time. They're probably lonely too. We were at that age.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#348
Keep the coding job. Meanwhile work on anything else on your own, invest some money, build a passive earning, buy a property and rent it. Depending on your definition of financial stability it could take a week or a couple of years. Done? Resignate. Take the passport and a backpack. Live your life.

No really, time is running out.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#349

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I’ll second the city bit. Your experience sounds very much like my existence in not-really-a-city Portland, OR. I moved to NYC and everything about my life got better fast. The only quirk is that COVID kneecapped socializing badly, that’s either temporary or civilization is doomed /shrug

I fled to New Orleans from Portland after two and a half years of that shit and never looked back.

From a visitor’s perspective Portland seems cool and hip. What actually goes wrong when you live there?
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