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Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Hey, also ACE score of 6 (apparently).

It's been a struggle, and I really should have gotten diagnosed with ADHD decades ago rather than years ago. I regret those that I've hurt (especially those that I love) and the times I was my own barrier to success or happiness.

I'm lucky to have a wonderful partner and manager at this stage in my life, and I've put a bunch of work into myself. It's been slow, but more and more of it seems to be "sticky", and that's incredibly encouraging.

Overall, satisfied with my life, especially in context of the world at large or relative to those with a similar background (makes me realize in some ways I'm pretty darn lucky after all).

Still, I feel the need to earn it. I don't feel like I deserve the nice things I do have, and I have a lot of anxiety of it going away. Therapy is currently helping me guide that and allow me to focus on the parts I can control while giving me the serenity to accept that there are things inherently uncontrollable, or even influencable.

Only thing I'd have to say is: never give up trying to get better. You're stuck with yourself for your entire life, one way or another. You owe it to your future, present, and past self to get better, and you owe it to those rays of sunshine that are the people you love or have given kindness, also past present, and future. You can't change the past, so don't dwell on it. Just try to do what you reasonably can. You've survived this long, which shows you're capable of endurance and survival at minimum. Have faith you can keep that, and use that as a rock to build a better life and a better (at least, local) world upon.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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My ACE score is... Zero. I think it doesn't take into account other factors (e.g. being bullied at school, or being ridiculed by friends), as it focuses mostly on the family environment. Anyway, it made me feel so lucky to go through the questions, and being able to always answer negatively. I felt so loved by my parents (more than what I already did). I was gifted, for sure. I thought I had quite a hard childhood, b…

Totally agreed on the methodology concerns, looks like its trying to err on under reporting. ex all the questions specifying "an adult", which presumes there were adults to take care of you in the first place.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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You'll figure it out, sometimes doing nothing is exactly what is needed. Look around you, lack of direction and medication/distraction is everywhere, and unfortunately suicide. I would never judge anyone for wanting an easy out. But I do feel its missing the point of the experience. What is your passion? What makes you excited/happy?

Yeah, I'll definitely figure it out. I'm actually a fairly positive person. It's just that the brain chemicals distort my thinking, unfortunately. I'm working on a few things, and going through exercises to retrain my brain. My main issue is lack of direction. Lately, I've been happy making generative art and building things in Blender. But, I'm not sure how to turn that into something that's useful or productive.

I would say to hell with useful, being useful is for tools, focus on happy/excited and that will eventually lead to the right place.

Feeling that you have a role to play, a unique contribution to society that is appreciated, is not really the same thing as useful. But it's where you want to aim. And that includes figuring out what you are supposed to do, which is where joy/excitement plays an important role as a guide.

Letting other people's expectations define your life will never work, enough people have tried and failed by now.

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This is cathartic. Thanks. ACE 8. I was often hungry and cold. and sometimes homeless. I was poor in an area stricken with poverty (appalachia). I lived in a home that didn’t have half of an exterior wall, and we only had a kerosene heater. Often, there was no electric. We originally didn’t have plumbing except for an outhouse (luckily a federal program forced a corrupt contractor to tack on a shoddy bathroom to the…

> I eventually got a role director of a consulting company in 2009, and I was making $150k. I felt like a badass... I ‘retired’ during the pandemic. I’ve really struggled since then.

Honest question. I have often thought that not everybody enjoys retirement. Some people struggle to find a meaningful purpose on their own. Do you think you are in that group? And have you considered going back to work?

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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Is #5 really that bad? Kids can be real shitheads sometimes, but you have to be willing to really go through with it.

A well-meaning but frustrated parent might try that move in the moment but not consider what it could mean from their child's perspective. "My parent could leave me" should never be a potential consequence for misbehaving. They're probably more aware of it because of worse things they've endured like it. A severe example is kicking your kid out of the car and driving off without them. Or packing them a bag and forcin…

This. I was in the car with my mom and I wouldn't shut up. She told me to and if I didn't, she'd make me walk home. Open my mouth I did!

I walked maybe 2 miles home. Stopped in every store/business where I knew someone. I stopped in the stationary store, the little 5 and dime, a doctor's office. Said hello and chatted a bit. I had to have been 7 or 8. Some folks asked where my mom was and I told them what happened. I have no recollection of what they said. All I know is that I walked on home. Thank goodness there were sidewalks and that I knew where I was going.

What had a much greater negative effect was the walkathon. I was a fat kid and somehow decided I was going to walk 20 miles to raise money for some charity. No one, most of all my father, thought I would walk more than a couple of miles. So neighbors, friends, colleagues of 'rents pledged $20/mile.

Day of, my friend and I were told to go to friend's mom's office when we finished and she'd drive us home. Off we went! Thank goodness we had some idea where we were. It took us all. day. long. We went to a wedding, watched some cute guys play basketball, admired gardens, and talked and talked. We were at the tail end and had no idea if anyone was in front of us or what time it was. Got to the center of town and the organizers had packed up. We had to walk probably 1/2 mile to friend's mom's office. . . and I finally showed up at home and it was like I'd never gone! Sometimes the walkaton pops into my head and I wonder how the hell my parents were not worried about me. More now that my mother has moved in with us and we talk more. I actually asked her about it the other day and she remembers nothing about the walk other than I walked all 20 miles.

End of the world? Absolutely not. But it sure taught me about what my parents thought I could do.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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My first time hearing of it too, am ACE 10. In my mid 40s and have been having an increasing desiring for no particular reason to unpack some baggage. I think I’ve done ok in life generally, much better than the course my childhood put me on, but I think I’ve suppressed a lot of stuff and ultimately is starting to wear me down. Most notably, I just feel like a fraud a lot of times. My peers talk about how they did st…

Therapy is definitely the way to go here. They're professional unpackers. Plus I've never heard someone say they regretted starting therapy. I've heard a lot of people say they regretted quitting or waiting to start.

> I've never heard someone say they regretted starting therapy.

Let me be the first one then. I went in with an open mind. When the first one did not work, I tried another. After two years and zero benefit, I regretted spending the time. Cost was not an issue as it was covered by insurance.

In the end I concluded that therapy isn't for everyone. Many people do benefit from it, but many others see zero benefit.

It is also possible that I was not a good candidate for therapy because my issues were super minor.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll figure it out, sometimes doing nothing is exactly what is needed. Look around you, lack of direction and medication/distraction is everywhere, and unfortunately suicide. I would never judge anyone for wanting an easy out. But I do feel its missing the point of the experience. What is your passion? What makes you excited/happy?

Yeah, I'll definitely figure it out. I'm actually a fairly positive person. It's just that the brain chemicals distort my thinking, unfortunately. I'm working on a few things, and going through exercises to retrain my brain. My main issue is lack of direction. Lately, I've been happy making generative art and building things in Blender. But, I'm not sure how to turn that into something that's useful or productive.

That might be part of the trouble. I have a similar drive to always be productive. I'm not sure how to describe it other than I get depressed when I have nothing to accomplish. Maybe making generative art in itself is good enough but if you need a goal, maybe turn it into some kind of charity exercise.

Maybe go back to your appalachian roots and chop some wood or whittle some sticks. I've found it therapeutic.

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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My ACE score is... Zero. I think it doesn't take into account other factors (e.g. being bullied at school, or being ridiculed by friends), as it focuses mostly on the family environment. Anyway, it made me feel so lucky to go through the questions, and being able to always answer negatively. I felt so loved by my parents (more than what I already did). I was gifted, for sure. I thought I had quite a hard childhood, b…

feeling loved is wonderful. alas it may have been missing additional support. especially if the parents also didn't have certain support they didn't know about it and didn't give it, without guilt.

> What is childhood emotional neglect?

> According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), emotional neglect is the inability of a parent/caregiver to connect with or provide for a child’s emotional needs.

does this ring a bell?

https://stopabusecampaign.org/2022/04/19/ace-101-childhood-e...

Re: Ask HN: Former gifted children with hard lives, how did you turn out?

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4 here. Been struggling with depression since 15, but got it under control since ~25 thanks to antidepressants, a healthier environment and a loving spouse whom I talk to a lot. I started drinking at 15 and had varying degrees of alcohol problems until my 20s. Never finished college - ended up with a lot of student debt and no degree. I come from a small city in Ecuador, a country which has gone through a lot of shit since I can remember: terrible education levels, insecurity, violence, political instability, etc. Parents got divorced during Ecuador's 2000 financial implosion. Dad went bankrupt, sank into deep depression and never fully recovered.

Luckily for me I'm good at one thing: coding. Eventually got out of town and found a job as a software consultant in Quito. Now I live in Stockholm Sweden. Got visa sponsored by a tech company at the pinnacle of the 2019-2020 tech hiring craze. Here I can say I'm slightly above average in terms of financial and career success, but I have it much, much better than my peers back home.

I'm kind of a loner (Sweden doesn't help tbh), I have low tolerance for stuff that triggers me and I tend to go back to bridge-burning mode from time to time, but my wife helps me stay on track and I have developed better coping mechanisms year after year :). My life is honestly wonderful and better than I could have ever hoped for. My home country is as violent as ever and I'm always worried that something's gonna happen to my family back there, but that's pretty much the only worry I have in my life now.

This exercise was great!

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