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Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by lazide »

pestatije wrote: post #4

> breaking apt upgrades on 20.04 LTS Could you be more specific? I upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04 without any issues.

Not the original poster, but I just had issues where normal operations of Ubuntu desktop (literally just installing updates after installing a new distribution) completely broke the OS - something crashed during apt update/upgrade and it nuked /var/lib/dpkg and all it’s data, which broke everything in a non recoverable way.

It did it twice, but I couldn’t figure out why.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by cf100clunk »

Distrowatch carries on after all these years, and (at the least) gives a fairly good catalogue of Linux and BSD distro capabilities in textual and tabular format.

https://distrowatch.com/

Try some out as VMs before comitting to bare metal installs.

EDIT: I see that MX Linux continues to reside as the "top" distro according to that site's methodology. MX has been on top there for a very long time.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by jodoherty »

I live in a region with a lot of government contracting businesses, so Red Hat Enterprise Linux is something I have to maintain a working familiarity with.

However, I use Debian for all of my personal projects and infrastructure.

The reason? There's no for-profit corporate interest directly controlling the project. The project's organizational structure resembles a constitutional democracy:

https://www.debian.org/intro/organization

There is an incorporated entity in the United States to handle a number of intellectual property and financial concerns:

https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/debian/

However, it exists as a non-profit with a very narrowly defined, specific set of purposes:

https://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/certificate-of-incorporati...

Because of this, I feel like the Debian project has a good combination of people and resources, making it easy to rely on long-term, but without the for-profit corporate interests that may conflict with my own in the future.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

I have been liking Pop[1] on desktop, it's pretty functional out of the box, doesn't stuff snaps down your throat (but makes them, and Flatpak, possible if that's your thing). On servers Debian is familiar-feeling but more straightforward for me.

1: https://pop.system76.com/

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by super256 »

cf100clunk wrote: post #18
discreditable wrote: post #16

Look no further than Debian. After switching from Ubuntu I started to understand why people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty.

> people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty Look even further at Devuan, made by people who conder Debian as a bit dirty. (I use both as needed, I'm just riffing on your comment)

> I use both as needed

In what case do you need to opt for a different init system than systemd? Genuinely curious, as I've been using debian with systemd for almost a decade now and haven't run into any issues regarding it.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by bloopernova »

maxk42 wrote: post #23
cmdlinecowboy wrote: post #8

Red Hat for enterprise use, Fedora for personal desktop use. One of the largest communities you’ll find. If you want Debian based maybe just straight Debian. The centos debacle was poorly handled but I think what red hat was /trying/ to do made sense. The community just wasn’t there to sustain it. Red Hat was paying to give away free RHEL basically lol. CentOS Stream should have just been called RHEL Stream. It’s bas…

Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably a lower learning curve anyway.

Could you please give some examples of those similar decisions? I'm eager to find any evidence of the Fedora admins as bad actors.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by bloopernova »

hanniabu wrote: post #9
LinuxBender wrote: post #2

If you are comfortable with Ubuntu then perhaps Debian [1], the OS that Ubuntu was forked from would feel natural? [1] - https://www.debian.org/

Wow, if there's one thing open source projects are known for, it's dated websites

Could you be more specific? What exactly should Debian's website offer that it currently isn't?

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by greyw »

cf100clunk wrote: post #18
discreditable wrote: post #16

Look no further than Debian. After switching from Ubuntu I started to understand why people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty.

> people view Ubuntu as a bit dirty Look even further at Devuan, made by people who conder Debian as a bit dirty. (I use both as needed, I'm just riffing on your comment)

I consider Devuan just under maintained Debian without systemd (I personally consider that a drawback but for some that is a big selling point).
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