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Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

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Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

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> I feel like I owe myself a lot, and even though I'm in a relationship now, I can't stop thinking about the opportunities that I missed with girls when I was younger. If you love the someone you're with, you don't care about other opportunities. What would be the point? Some special organs that another person doesn't have? Keeping score of how many times you've got laid? On the other hand, if you don't love someone,…

> If you love the someone you're with, you don't care about other opportunities. What would be the point? Some special organs that another person doesn't have?

To gain the experience necessary to know when your significant other is behaving in ways that are exceptional. Everything is normal until then

This is how you develop the emotional intellegence to both appeciate them long-term and the wherewithal to deal with abuse.

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

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post #18

> I feel like I owe myself a lot, and even though I'm in a relationship now, I can't stop thinking about the opportunities that I missed with girls when I was younger. If you love the someone you're with, you don't care about other opportunities. What would be the point? Some special organs that another person doesn't have? Keeping score of how many times you've got laid? On the other hand, if you don't love someone,…

> If you love the someone you're with, you don't care about other opportunities. What would be the point? Some special organs that another person doesn't have? To gain the experience necessary to know when your significant other is behaving in ways that are exceptional. Everything is normal until then This is how you develop the emotional intellegence to both appeciate them long-term and the wherewithal to deal with…

You can get that from having and studying regular relationships with people, you don't need to f... them too...

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#34
Learn from it. Otherwise you're going to experience these same regrets when you're about to turn 40, 50, 60, 70, ...

Figure out your goals/principles/mission today. Then make that happen now.

There's never going to be a right time to do anything other than now. Because you're never going to be any younger.

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#35
/u/poem_for_your_sprog

  I should have hurried youth, in truth,
  And moved more quickly on -
  I should have made the most of youth,
  Before the time was gone.
  
  I should have followed fancy, free,
  Before it thought to fade -
  I should have picked a good degree,
  Or found myself a trade.

  I should have stopped to stare above;
  To share another's dreams -
  I should have never welcomed love,
  And lost it all, it seems.
  
  No matter what the aim or end -
  No matter what you do -
  Regrets are part of life, my friend:
  Don't let them conquer you

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#36
Self-compassion is key. Forgive yourself for the things you didn't do, but also know that regret over inaction is just a feeling, and feelings are not perfectly reliable. Regret is a heuristics informed by your values and perception. It can be good for you if you use it for good, just don't be entirely duped by it.

There is no golden path, spending your twenties travelling the world or chasing a different career still could have led you to disappointment. Ultimately happiness can be learned, and can have little prerequisities if you learn to love yourself.

I for example usually treat myself as a blob of fancy goo, I try, I fail, I forgive myself, I keep on trying. I try to accept that I can't control everything, I try to accept my limitations. Paradoxically once that happens, once there is no judgment the motivation to defend myself by entertaining delusions goes away and reality takes it's place. Only when I have a solid grasp on reality I can overcome my limitations.

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#37
Most of us are generally very hard on ourselves. Every 5 - 10 years we all look back and regret something. To balance this you need to also look at things you did that you are proud of or made you happy. To get into the habit of appreciating your life, start keeping a "Gratitude" diary or blog, and list at least 1 thing every day that made you feel good. It can be something as simple as "old lady smiled at me" to something bigger "bought a new car for mom & dad!".

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#38
I empathize with you. You conned yourself into academia.

If you regret not having enough partners. Don't regret, probably, you wouldn't have much anyway. Top 20% gets 80% of the action. You aren't in the top 20%.

Academia is awful. Again top 20% of the students get 80% of the attention and opportunities. Seems you aren't in the top 20%.

So what to do from here? First stop digging. If you don't want to marry the girl you are with, Cut the relation, don't be a moron, don't make her loose time. Go to a church and set your life in order. Hear Jordan Peterson on YouTube. Get an entry level job in tech. Go for data analyst or systems administrator. If you are able to land a developer job, great. Currently you are worth close to 0 to the market. You are useless, but you are smart and you can learn. Swallow your pride and get some useful skills.

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#39
Here's a path that has worked for many people from all kinds of life paths.

Leave academia. It's intellectually sterile, economically exploitative, and will implode sooner rather that later.

Get an industry job. The market is hot, and any experience you have will pay off far more than academia ever might. Don't worry if the job isn't "groundbreaking" or "cutting edge." Don't look for satisfaction in your work, that's a dead end.

Instead, get a life partner. If you're concerned that you will be outcompeted, your goal here is not to get the world's most attractive or fascinating person. Most people make ok life partners. Don't wait to make a deep, profound connection with some kind of mystical soul mate who understands you implicitly. That's a dead end.

It's more important that your partner is fecund. With a child on the way, you will find that your interests and aspirations will become narrow and clear: a large house on an attractive lot far from the city, a car large enough to carry a growing family in comfort, a quality school system with great student outcomes, a support network of local parents. But don't live through your children. They could never live up to the hopes and fantasies your mind will pile on them. That's a dead end.

Instead, get a vintage "mechanic's special" sports car and drag it into your garage. Spend your weekends trying to repair it. Get into craft beer appreciation. A good board game can shave off a good 2-3 hours of unfilled time. I've had a surprising amount of fun driving a riding mower in little circles. It's the little things in life.

I've seen a lot of restless, neurotic twenty and thirty-somethings who experienced a lightbulb moment of epiphany and became dedicated, purpose-driven, calm, and determined adults when they understood what a good life is about.

Re: Ask HN: About to turn 30. Any advice on how to deal with the depression?

#40
I read an article by a guy who had terminal cancer at around 30, maybe he was 32.

He said something like, “Ever ygray hair is a somewhat a blessing because you’re at least getting to experience more of your life, you at least have the option to experience growing older, it’s not a luxury I’ll receive.”

Also growing “old” is still largely optional, keep your mind plastic, keep fit, keep strong, eat well, sleep well and you’ll feel twenty hours while life. I know many older people who told me they felt twenty even when they died.

You still have time, get moving in the direction you want to be heading!

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