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Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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The reason it's worse is basically because it's more 'safe' (not racist, etc). That of course sounds insane, and doesn't mean that safety shouldn't be strived for, etc - but there's an explanation as to how this occurs. It occurs because the system essentially does a latent classification of problems into 'acceptable' or 'not acceptable' to respond to. When this is done, a decent amount of information is lost regardi…

If I run a model like LLaMA locally would it be subject to the same restrictions? In other words is the safety baked into the model or a separate step separate from the main model?

LLaMa was not fine tuned on human interactions , so it shouldn’t be subject to the same effect, but it also means it’s not nearly as good at having conversations. It’s much better at completing sentences

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can only do this in the USA. The battle bottleneck is going to be GPUs and countries that have access to it will leap ahead of the US if arbitrary regulations are put in place to neuter LLMs in the US.

You can lobby in every country, what do you mean

It only takes one country to host an open source AI model thanks to the internet.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #40

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“Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!”

The Bard model (Bison) is available without region lock as part of Google Cloud Platform. In addition to being able to call it via an API, they have a similar developer UI to the OpenAI playground to interactively experiment with it. https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative/langua...

Did they release the Codey or Unicorn models publicly yet? Or say when they might do that?

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #124

The reason it's worse is basically because it's more 'safe' (not racist, etc). That of course sounds insane, and doesn't mean that safety shouldn't be strived for, etc - but there's an explanation as to how this occurs. It occurs because the system essentially does a latent classification of problems into 'acceptable' or 'not acceptable' to respond to. When this is done, a decent amount of information is lost regardi…

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #200

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I would immediately jump to an AI not being "aligned" by SF techies (or anyone else).

Same here. If I have a choice between honesty and political correctness, I always pick honesty.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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It's interesting to me that previously the consensus considered "the only way is up" with respect to generative models. Now we're seeing performance degradation with GPT, possibly indicating a peak or at least a local maximum.

I hope you're all ready with your pumpkin spiced lattes and turkeys because it seems like we're in AI autumn and we all know what comes after that.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #14

Yes. Before the update, when its avatar was still black, it solved pretty complex coding problems effortlessly and gave very nuanced, thoughtful answers to non-programming questions. Now it struggles with just changing two lines in a 10-line block of CSS and printing this modified 10-line block again. Some lines are missing, others are completely different for no reason. I'm sure scaling the model is hard, but they l…

It’s go-to tactic now if I ask it to go over any piece of code is to give a generic overview. Earlier, it would section out the code into chunks and go through each one individually.

Yeah, the bing integration did not go well. Went from amazing to annoying.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #207
post #200

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Same here. If I have a choice between honesty and political correctness, I always pick honesty.

It's not about honesty vs. political correctness, it is about safety. There's real concern that the model can cause harm to humans, in a variety of ways, which is and should be unethical. If we have to argue about that in 2023, that's concerning.

That's just not true. Treat adults as adults, please. You're not everybody's babysitter and neither are the sf bros.
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