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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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your experience isn't rare.it's the silent majority.people who land quckily don't post about it.The ones who struggle are loud.

"Hundreds of interviews"is just ongiong price discovery.you were runing the experiment before it mattered. Declined a local offer to stay at your company?That'sjust knowing your leverage.Nothing special.

Good luck on the final round.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#222

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I get one a week minimum, hundreds per year. I don’t follow up often enough to know whether they are real and separate etc though.

Appreciate the anecdote and your other comments on HN. But I strongly suspect you are incredibly atypical based on your background and previous work experience in ways that would tremendously down weight the probability that any part of your experience with recruiters would apply to even above average engineers.

Thanks for posting this, it has made me reflect. I think that’s a fair point.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I had a friend with plenty of experience in HR get laid off. He looked for a job for 13 months. One of the top 3 smartest people I’ve ever known looked for seven months and had to take a big step back in his career, despite having Amazon and Home Depot on his resume. Both of them said that even getting an interview was almost impossibly hard. These are people in different parts of the county, and in different industr…

if he was responsible for Home Depot's app, I can understand why it took him so long to find another job.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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retired?

Yes just pulled the plug. Now mostly travelling and meeting people (not even drinking, because Ozempic totally killed all the joy of doing it).

Have you tried freelancing? Curious if that has seen an uptick or fall.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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It's idk 10% for B2B in Poland and more than 50% in western Europe. Of course if you pay someone 135k vs 70k real income the first person will put in more effort. In western Europe you'd just have to specify the availability requirements and they'd do it there as well. You'd just have to pay for it. Edit: If you pay someone 150k€ in Germany what they see after-tax is just not that much. They are going to compare this…

> If you pay someone 150k€ in Germany what they see after-tax is just not that much For Germany this in not true, I have direct experience of this. Your income is really high at 150k€, even taking in account all taxes you pay if you’re self–employed (plus insurances, social security contributions, etc). You’re way above what you would get from the German market, unless you go into management.

The IGM 9-5 35 hour work-week 30+ holidays job pays nearly 100k€. Add the employer social contributions and it is 116k€. He wants good work ethic so I'd say at least 25% more work time, probably less holidays, say 20. The IGM job scaled for this would be already at 150k€. He wants availability at 5pm US time, that's (best-case) 23:00 here, so night-shift work. The IGM job would pay double for this or something (this is how you get air traffic controllers earning 150k€ here).

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Can't you simply fill that gap on your resume with something made up? "Self employed", "freelancer", "stealth startup", "confidential employer" etc. How would the companies ever know?

They will run a background check listing all your past jobs, with the exact title you had, and start-end dates.

Hard to verify self-employment

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#229

I had a friend with plenty of experience in HR get laid off. He looked for a job for 13 months. One of the top 3 smartest people I’ve ever known looked for seven months and had to take a big step back in his career, despite having Amazon and Home Depot on his resume. Both of them said that even getting an interview was almost impossibly hard. These are people in different parts of the county, and in different industr…

Don't want to discredit or invalidate your/your friend's experience, but I do want to offer some hope during these times where a lot of what you see on the web is doomer posts. From Google: The Jevons paradox occurs when technological improvements increase the efficiency of a resource, but the resulting drop in cost causes demand to rise so much that total consumption of that resource increases rather than decreases.…

Most software is not price elastic so Jevon's Paradox will not matter

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#230

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Why even post such an absurd comment?

I find it absurd how she generalized that Western Europe is complaining a lot and less pragmatic than whatever. The same for working remote but not having the chops like the 'Bay Area'. Could have been a serious question as well, why do you find it absurd?

I didn't see a reference to any of that in the question.

I'm mocking the unsupported declaration about "best people are in the Bay area."

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