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Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

tlrobinson wrote: post #71

More important to me than lack of “smart” features (as long as it is functional without using them or connecting to the internet) is responsiveness to user input. I just want a TV I can quickly turn on/off and change volume and input. My current Vizio is extremely sluggish for some reason. Maybe that’s correlated with smart features…

It’s correlated with input latency of the TV. Your tv may have a “gaming” setup option, that will decrease latency to a reasonable level. rtings.com has a lot of make/model-specific docs on this.

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Post by GoodJokes »

mcculley wrote: post #212
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Is there a proper term or category for a monitor meant for high end installations that has no branding on it (e.g., as one would put into a display at a museum)? I refuse to buy something with a logo on the front of it.

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Post by Grustaf »

happyopossum wrote: post #189
Koshkin wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> brighter colors How bright do you want them to be? Do you watch Netflix in a sun-lit room?

I do - why wouldn’t I want to be able to do that?

Some people don't watch tv during the day...

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Post by MR4D »

mcculley wrote: post #212
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

Is there a proper term or category for a monitor meant for high end installations that has no branding on it (e.g., as one would put into a display at a museum)? I refuse to buy something with a logo on the front of it.

Yes. In fact, Jeff Geerling just had a YouTube episode about one (and Raspberry Pi of course).

https://youtu.be/-epPf7D8oMk

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Post by ffggvv »

MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

monitors dont have tv channels or hook ups for a lot of peoples cable boxes

usually dont have the best (if ant) speakers or a remote either

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Post by iancmceachern »

ffggvv wrote: post #227
MR4D wrote: post #205

You want to buy a “monitor”, not a TV. For instance there is this from LG [0] or this from Dell [1]. Just do a search for “large 4K monitor” and you’ll find more. [0] - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-43-ultrafine-4k-uhd-monitor-... [1] - https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r...

monitors dont have tv channels or hook ups for a lot of peoples cable boxes usually dont have the best (if ant) speakers or a remote either

My 42" 4k LG monitor has both a remote and built-in speakers.

It also plugs right into my cable box via one of its 4 hdmi inputs

Re: Ask HN: Is there a TV on the market without “Smart TV” features?

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Post by clairity »

metadat wrote: post #25
jitl wrote: post #4

I’ve kept my Samsung offline since I purchased it in 2019. I’ve kept my LG offline since I purchased it in 2016. As long as you have an AppleTV or similar connected to service your need for “smarts” it won’t be hard to leave the TV offline. (I recommend LG over Samsung - Samsung TV has native undismissable ads from 2019 still)

+1, this is great advice. I've been doing the same; get an AppleTV or GoogleTV dongle and never, ever attach the LG or Samshung TV to the network. Benefits of this strategy: * So simple, even non-savvy folks can follow the rule * Protects your privacy * Eliminates an unnecessary, highly invasive, and parasitic advertising vector (ads directly from LG or Samsung) * Protects your TV performance and functionality from s…

> "...GoogleTV..."

> "* Protects your privacy"

these two things are at complete odds. appletv is only marginally better, but it is better. anything google is going to spy on you for its own benefit and those of its advertisers.

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Post by prepend »

mulmen wrote: post #117
downrightmike wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then we burn the wireless card

Which violates the warranty. And if the TV can’t phone home it can just refuse to boot. So you need to root and modify firmware too. The answer is not giving these companies money.

Tv warranties are only a year so that’s not much to worry about. I bought a top of the line Samsung many years ago. The warranty lasted only a year and some capacitors burned out it took lots of phone calls to get them to repair as it’s a design defect.

I’ve had to do it myself once as well.

I don’t care about voiding my warranty.

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