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Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#221
• Native UI toolkit used for window chrome (toolbar, etc) - no HTML/XUL/etc, it's gotta be real

• Good OS integration

• Prioritization of power efficiency over performance

• Built in request-based ad blocking like that found in iOS 9/El Capitan Safari

• Tabs in a list on the side of the window

• Per tab processes

• In-browser video playback handled by embedded mpv

• General focus on being a vehicle for viewing websites rather than trying to be an application platform

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

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post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I checked ad blocking on Android was quite difficult to set up. It requires root, it runs as a background process, and I need to set up a proxy for each wifi connection. When the adblock process died, the internet connection would stop working completely. I just want an ad blocker in the browser, like on the desktop.

Ad blocking on Android system wide using something like AdAway ranges from easy to impossible depending on the phone but you can install the same ad blocking extensions on mobile Firefox that you have on the desktop without any trouble.

Thanks, I should give Firefox on Android an other try.

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#223
post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use firefox, but if I remember correctly the passwords are stored in plain text? And there is no global password to protect the saved password.

How exactly is any browser supposed to autofill passwords without storing them in plaintext? If you want them encrypted, you need to put in a password on every startup, which can be easily done by using truecrypt containers or fde.

Firefox supports said password-protection out-of-the-box, IIRC.

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#224

Jails for cookies, history, etc. I want to be able to stay logged into Google/Facebook/Linkedin for convenience without other browser tabs knowing anything about it...or isomorphically, I want to be able to browse the internet while logged into those services without the pages I am browsing leaking data back to those sites. I'll take the hit of downloading 100k of jquery on my 20mbit pipe a few extra times. I want my…

In the meantime I can recommend the RequestPolicy[1] add-on for Firefox. It's not exactly what you're asking for; it blocks cross-domain requests entirely instead. Since it uses a whitelist you'll have to add exceptions for the sites you use (images and stylesheets are often placed on a different domain). This takes a bit of time but I think it's worth it.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/requestpolicy/ (the developer happens to have the same lastname as my firstname, but we're not related in any way)

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#225
post #56

Basically Opera 12 or pre-Chromium Opera in general.. - Obvious things like encryption support, tabs, full cookie options, (customizable) "smart" address bar, speed dial, history, favourites, optional synchronization, extension support, spell check... - heavily customizable UI, - plenty of other customization through settings or Opera's neatly done opera:config, - easily togglable (is that a word?) side panel with M2…

> tab sandboxing

Cookieplux[1] is a plugin I made for Firefox, It is still waiting for approval from Moziall. But I have released the source. So you can build it yourself.

[1] http://firstglitch.com/cookieplux/cookieplux-firfox-plugin-f...

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#226
post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't creating a second user in chromium do what you want here? You could have a specific "social media" user.

to achieve what he said he'd need one user per browser tab... you do realize that facebook etc still track you, even if you're logged out, right?

as can google, and every other major player.

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#227
An open webpage file format which is not markup. Something of the like of YAML, or something simpler to read for a human.

Or maybe compiled HTML (like microsoft .CHM), except open (duh).

Reason ? Parsing XML or HTML is very CPU-intensive, and cheap smartphone's small CPUs (which have a very low L2 cache) have a very hard time dealing with it, not to mention classic desktop browser memory footprints. If not even regex can do it, why the hell not ? I'm sure the memory footprint of firefox and chrome is incompressible because of the raw nature of HTML. And for the life of me, if nobody can read a HTLM page generated anymore, what's the point of it ? Why not just compile it ?

I guess I could submit it to the IETF, to be honest. I'm not even a software engineer so basically I'm not sure if my idea is right or not, but I'll always find weird that the app-version of websites perform so much better than their HTML version.

In the internet explorer days, this was not possible because firefox and chrome were not mainstream, but I'm sure now is a good opportunity. It could eventually even replace or substitute .DOC and PDF files.

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

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post #6

The reason why I originally switched from Firefox to Chrome was because Chrome was minimalistic and very, very fast - a chrome for the web. Now I'm seeing Chrome become bloated, and slow. On top of this, it's now trying very hard to identify me by asking me to sign in with my Google account. I want my next browser to make me forget that I'm using a browser in the first place, and also to not care about my identity.

Sounds like you might want to give Firefox a try again then – it’s much better now than in the 4.x days. Or if you’re on a Mac Safari is pretty slim (although slightly lagging in JS abilities).

Thanks, I will give it a try again. :)

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#229

The web needs to split into two: * Reader browser * Application browser The reader browser should show you the "web" in a kindle-like readable experience, just as it does today. However, the application browser, although it does receive a URL, should not have any HTML page as a default view. Instead, a JavaScript should be first loaded, and from there, following the permissions it requests, it can open new windows, n…

I can imagine an "application browser" being essentially a virtualized runtime browser - you point to the 'url' of an application, it downloads the runtime and source code and environment (if you don't already have it) and everything gets sandboxed and compiled on the fly, and runs as if it were native code. Of course, nothing would touch your actual filesystem, and you could get rid of an application as easily as you clean your browser cache today. This would also have the advantage of being language agnostic.

This is already technically kind of sort of possible with any number of sites that use compile-to-js languages, but these are invariably limited by the capabilities javascript and HTML. I suppose the ultimate version of this would look like browseable software images like Docker or something.

Re: Ask HN: What would you want in an ideal web browser?

#230

The web needs to split into two: * Reader browser * Application browser The reader browser should show you the "web" in a kindle-like readable experience, just as it does today. However, the application browser, although it does receive a URL, should not have any HTML page as a default view. Instead, a JavaScript should be first loaded, and from there, following the permissions it requests, it can open new windows, n…

Reader browser: I would argue that it should be a reader/writer browser, where authoring, changing and interlinking documents is just as trivial as browsing them. Application browser: but then why limit it to JavaScript?

I agree with the r/w web, and that was the original vision, but it's not really practical at this point because nobody supports such editing in a standard fashion
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