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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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The logically consistent explanation for both your experience and my experience is that you are on the other side of the K as people who are in demand and I am on the same side of the K as people in demand. My guess is that one of the following applies: 1. You do not live silicon valley 2. You do not work at a FAANG 3. You have not built foundational infrastructure I think if all three of the above are true, you are…

I have nothing to do with any of those points.

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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I've been looking for 4 months and only had one phone screen from HR. Cybersecurity in Raleigh, my last employer was MAG 7. My particular problem is I took off 6 years to be a stay-at-home parent.

Can't you simply fill that gap on your resume with something made up? "Self employed", "freelancer", "stealth startup", "confidential employer" etc. How would the companies ever know?

They will run a background check listing all your past jobs, with the exact title you had, and start-end dates.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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It's primarily a discovery problem, on both sides of the market. Candidate-wise, everyone is slinging ChatGPT'd resumes left and right, which just leads to an arms race where the other side has to use LLMs to filter them, which just makes the situation even worse. The bar for "senior software engineer" is insanely low right now (and no, Leetcode doesn't count - I'm talking more pragmatic skills like being able to use…

Wait, you mean there are senior software engineers who don't know how to use a *nix terminal? I've been using them since I was like 16 or so.

i was hiring for a senior devops role a few years ago. part of the interview was ssh into a machine and debug some web server configs we purposely broke. step one was email an ssh public key to me. now, i dont remember the command cause i do it so rarely, i dont expect them to, but for a senior role we expect you can google this, its not supposed to be hard. the number of people that could not generate an ssh key was crazy. i had people emailing me their current company private key. and if we did spend half the interview on the key, they never could pass the trivial part of how we broke it, which effictively just required reading the log file.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I have been wondering if my LinkedIn just happens to hit all of the right content somehow. I've been afraid to post or change anything just in case I upset some secret balance!

I get a ton of hits too on linkedin if you want to compare or contrast ever

Do you mind sharing how does your LinkedIn look like? Do you regularly post? I'd really like to know this as im struggling with this.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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You can also tell how garbage a pipeline ATS screening and other such shit is by the sheer number of positions you see that are advertised for four to six weeks, go off-market only to re-appear 2-3 months later. You know what's even more exhausting for an employer than having to invest energy into the top of your hiring funnel? Having to redo it every few months because an ATS filtered much of the cream off the top a…

Have to be honest, I do sometimes wonder how many of those might be cases of literal liars/scammers getting the roles thanks to heavily puffed up CVs and lots of AI usage, only for said companies to end up needing to lay them off again when they realise their claimed skills don't match reality. I feel like someone has to be getting past these systems, and I get the feeling it's not the people these companies want to…

And some of the frustration there is I suspect then that some of those companies don't want to then return to their final round participants to see if they're still available because they're hit with a duality of "we don't want to admit we passed you over for a BS artist" and "well, if they haven't found something yet, were they really a final round person for us?" (not saying that's a valid perspective or not, but I could absolutely see it happening).

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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I had a friend with plenty of experience in HR get laid off. He looked for a job for 13 months. One of the top 3 smartest people I’ve ever known looked for seven months and had to take a big step back in his career, despite having Amazon and Home Depot on his resume. Both of them said that even getting an interview was almost impossibly hard. These are people in different parts of the county, and in different industr…

Don't want to discredit or invalidate your/your friend's experience, but I do want to offer some hope during these times where a lot of what you see on the web is doomer posts.

From Google: The Jevons paradox occurs when technological improvements increase the efficiency of a resource, but the resulting drop in cost causes demand to rise so much that total consumption of that resource increases rather than decreases.

The message being, it may seem now that because the friction for creating software is so minimal now that there will be no need for software engineers in the future. But historically when friction has been reduced, we have seen an increase in demand that outweighs the efficiency gain, increasing total consumption. I believe that software won't be an exception to this millennia-old pattern.

While what "software engineering" may look like might change, I still believe strongly that people who understand software will actually be in higher demand than ever in the future.

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