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Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

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Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#181

Hats off for winning the first battle. Winning back your mind. It's not easy. Freelance, as you said, might be a pragmatic next step. Sell your desktop PC to buy a laptop or get a cheap Thinkpad. Models from a few years ago are still perfectly good for programming. And then you could work from libraries. I don't know how the tech market is going to evolve, but if the junior to mid level market stays as it is or worse…

I'll second this. If a few people here contributed, tires or a laptop could happen very quickly. I'm adamant about helping others in need, but live very close to being on the need side myself. If I had the cabbage, I'd take the chance and cover it all. Alas, I'm only good for $30, which multiplied by a few more gambits of kindness, could solve some problems.

I'm in.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#182

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>That sounds like a plaintiff's perspective when there is no concern for the welfare of the other parent. It would be more accurate to say that the court prioritises the welfare of the child above that of the parents. That is, the system (in theory) should enforce that the child recieves the same level of support and standard of living as it would if the parents had not separated. Judges take a very dim view of paren…

>It would be more accurate to say that the court prioritises the welfare of the child above that of the parents. That's not true. The welfare of the child is already destroyed by separating the child from one of its parents. If the court prioritized the welfare of the child, then it would give out 50:50 custody by default, with the non-custodial parent having to consent to child support to avoid custody.

Sometimes there is no perfect solution. The court also has to take practicality into consideration.

The welfare of the child is often best served by allocating custody such that a child can stay at one residence most of the time (with regular visitation to the other parent to maintain the relationship), so that the stability of the child's living situation is not disturbed by having to constantly switch between two residences, having their school routine and social life disrupted, etc.

Also, custody split is only part of the issue. Supposing parent A earns 2x parent B's income, they should still be paying child support even if custody is 50:50, so that the same standard is maintained across both households.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#183

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>Is this reasonable though? Going from one household to two households raises expenses. People also just go through bad times, mental troubles, skills atrophy. These sorts of things are accounted for when calculating child support obligations, and in any case judges are not computers and can use their discretion in such matters. As long as you're operating in good faith you shouldn't have any issues. I was specifical…

>Think of the reverse perspective - is it fair for a child to have to, for example, give up after school sports, because one of their parents decided that they would prefer not to pay child support? This is backwards. You're ignoring that the divorce has to be initiated in the first place and that divorce usually results in the removal of custody by the father and thereby creates an obligation to pay child support on…

>You're ignoring that the divorce has to be initiated in the first place

Correct. My point is that the child should receive the same standard of living regardless of the dispute between parents.

>Yes it is fair, because the divorce was initiated despite the expectation of these outcomes. If a man or woman initiates divorce, they must have had a good reason to do so and we should not question that reason by arguing that school sports or tuition are more important than the reason for divorce.

Parents may divorce and have whatever disputes they like, but it is not fair for one parent to deprive the child of support and resources that they would otherwise receive because of a dispute with the other parent.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#184
My $0.02 please

Recommended plan 1. Find a new-ish laptop immediately. You can get a decent used one for $1K on backmarket.com. Invest in an ergonomic mouse and an iPad for 2nd monitor as well. 2. Do only high value tech work that pays or you learn something that will pay. Be hungry and stay homeless but do not work as an Uber driver it's a poverty trap by design. 3. Find a host family, welcoming community or marry up. You can't beat depression or get back on your feet alone. One suggestion is: go to SLC and get involved in Hacker and / or rock climbing communities.

Def get rid of the desktop computer. You don't have a desk and are unlikely to for long time.

Again my $0.02 please it's hard but you're on the right track IMO

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#185
post #164

Not that this is the whole solution, but I can send you a used MacBook Pro M1 or M2 (can’t remember). You can use that to go on Mercor and see if any of the roles suit you. Reply to this thread, if interested.

Out of morbid curiosity, do you have an extra MBP because of getting to keep one (or buy back for cheap) from a past job?

I'm asking because I've also accumulated some Mac's in my career and I see others also offering them up in this thread. I've always wondered how common it was to accrue them from past tech companies.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Think of the reverse perspective - is it fair for a child to have to, for example, give up after school sports, because one of their parents decided that they would prefer not to pay child support? This is backwards. You're ignoring that the divorce has to be initiated in the first place and that divorce usually results in the removal of custody by the father and thereby creates an obligation to pay child support on…

>You're ignoring that the divorce has to be initiated in the first place Correct. My point is that the child should receive the same standard of living regardless of the dispute between parents. >Yes it is fair, because the divorce was initiated despite the expectation of these outcomes. If a man or woman initiates divorce, they must have had a good reason to do so and we should not question that reason by arguing th…

>it is not fair for one parent to deprive the child of support and resources that they would otherwise receive because of a dispute with the other parent.

Only in a rather crazy partnership is that the case. My child's resources and support absolutely fluctuate with my actual income, preferences, and obligations and as a compromise of financial disputes.

Recently I built a house instead of working, willfully drastically lowering my income to 0. The child had all the necessities met, but anything beyond was less plentiful than before and we had to cook frugal foods. The child was not neglected or abused so nothing illegal, but standard of living significantly lowered. It is fair that the child's standard of living lowers with the parents, but your system would have me a criminal were it I didn't have custody.

It doesn't make sense that married people can willfully lower standard of living but non custodial parents cannot. The standard should be the same uniformly but were it the case it would be voted down, thus is a case of the majority buying a sense of smug moral imposition at no cost to themselves against the evil divorcing sinners, to the great benefit of family law practices who often ruthlessly pursue it for profit.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#187
Next challenge is evaluation of your willingness to share a room with 2/3 others in effort to keep rental costs down.

This extra roommate(s) poses and presents an extra challenge of your mental health.

The only other recourse is to rent ... alone ... in deep rural areas in the smallest place you can afford, space-wise. Smallest soace, because you'll need extra money for gas, food, transpos.

So, your mental health dictates your willingness to deal with extra people which in turn primarily dictates your ability to expensive living closer (but with roommates) to your kids in the city versus the cost of a living space alone.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#188
Interesting ... The original poster did not say one word about child support, and this string turned into a child custody and support debate. The solutions: 1. Automatic 50/50 custody at the time of separation. 2. Because each parent has equal 50/50 responsibility for the child, support should be only a small amount from the higher earning parent to the lower earning parent to equalize the financial environment for the child in each household. 3. No "imputed income" ... EVER. Child support based upon real income only. 4. Audit how the recipient spends child support for the benefit of the child. 5. If all this isn't done, child support strike! Just sit in the jail and do nothing. Let the citizens of the county pay support to feed, clothe and house the child support obligors until they beg their legislators to change the law.

To the original poster: Check with your local senior citizens' services agencies. See if they have a senior citizen shared housing program. I don't know how old you are, but only one of the parties in a shared housing arrangement needs to be a senior citizen or disabled. Rent could be very low, or could be just maintenance on the home, or just companionship.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#189
post #133

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No point in setting yourself on fire to keep others warm though.

Actually I think caring for your children is one of the few times where it DOES make sense to set yourself on fire to keep them warm. I get the logic of needing room to get on one’s feet, but those kids still need care. Presumably their other parent is already sacrificing to pick up the slack.

While dramatic, and sometimes necessary to set yourself on fire but most of the times your children will be better off if you push through the storm without burning yourself. They will suffer cold a little longer but watching your parent burn to death will scar them for life.

And that is the problem with child support system. It is ready to burn the father as the first option instead of last resort.

Re: Ask HN: How do I escape homelessness after rebuilding my mental health?

#190
post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You're ignoring that the divorce has to be initiated in the first place Correct. My point is that the child should receive the same standard of living regardless of the dispute between parents. >Yes it is fair, because the divorce was initiated despite the expectation of these outcomes. If a man or woman initiates divorce, they must have had a good reason to do so and we should not question that reason by arguing th…

>it is not fair for one parent to deprive the child of support and resources that they would otherwise receive because of a dispute with the other parent. Only in a rather crazy partnership is that the case. My child's resources and support absolutely fluctuate with my actual income, preferences, and obligations and as a compromise of financial disputes. Recently I built a house instead of working, willfully drastica…

> It doesn't make sense that married people can willfully lower standard of living but non custodial parents cannot.

Of course it does - because both parents are responsible for the welfare of the children, and so if they both decide that they want to lower the standard of living that is a shared/joint agreement.

If the non-custodial parent decides they want to lower their child's standard of living, a) that is a unilateral decision, and b) they (the non-custodial parent) don't have to bear the implications of that lowered standard of living.

> your system would have me a criminal were it I didn't have custody.

Yes, sadly, having children means that sometimes you lack flexibility and can't make the decisions you would like to make.

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