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Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

#161
AI fatigue? Nope, far from it.

I asked some general questions to ChatGPT, and it gave me pretty coherent answers. But when I asked really specific question like "How to rewrite Linux kernel in Lisp", then it gave me seemingly gibberish answer.

This was about 2 months ago, BTW. Maybe ChatGPT already learn more stuffs and are smarter. Let's see...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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ChatGPT is, of course, a great piece of software, but the huge hype is probably what it will be best remembered for. Also, since currently, AI is the exclusive playground of big corporations, to me it's a bit puzzling how some people can get so excited (and maintain that excitement) over something that they cannot control and have little hope of building it by themselves. I guess some are just more in love with techn…

I assume that there will be an open and freely available model as large as ChatGPT within a year or so. Training costs are prohibitive but what about NSF grants?

I don't know about the NSF, or when will governments get in on AI, but you're probably right, the technology will become open source in a while, as it has happened in the past.

It looks much less likely for the cost of developing and training an AI system to come down for the time being, making it out of reach for most individuals.

When the PC revolution was happening, everyone interested had a good chance of getting in, they just needed some money to buy/rent a computer and learn to use it or program it.

Compared to that, the AI revolution doesn't seem to have the same quality.

The barrier to entry seems much much higher this time.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't. Now you know for a fact :) What I have seen about it ranged from things that can be nearly just as well handled by your $EDITOR's snippet functionality to things where my argument kicked in - I have to verify this generated code does what I want, ergo I have to read and understand something not written by me. Paired with the at least somewhat legally and ethical questionable source of the training data, th…

So stop evangelizing about stuff you haven’t used. Understanding code is easier than writing it from the scratch. That’s why code review doesn’t take as much time as writing code and you still need to prove your code works, even if you wrote it yourself.

Code review often takes me longer than writing code. More generally, reading other people's code is more difficult for me than writing (or reading) my own.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I’m sick of AI products, I’m even more sick of the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument.

It can be both bullshit and utterly astounding. In terms of closing the gap between AI hype and useful general purpose AI tools, no one can reasonably deny that it's an absolute quantum leap. It's just not a daily driver for technical experts yet.

> quantum leap

Ironically accurate.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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I'm working on a project that uses GPT-3 and similar stuff, even before the hype. I think the overhype is really tiring. Just like with most of these hype cycles there is an actual useful interesting technology, but the hype beasts take it way overboard and present it as if it's the holy grail or whatever. It's not. That's tiring, and really annoying. It's incredibly cool technology, it is great at certain use cases,…

> GPT-3 it's good at generative writing made up bullshit > summarization except you can't possibly know the output has any relation whatsoever to the text being summarized > information search and extraction except you can't possibly know the output has any relation whatsoever to the information being extracted people still fall for this crap?

Agreed. Been testing out responses to parsing complex genomics papers (say, a methodology section describing parameters of some algorithm) and its mostly rephrasing rather than digesting and responding with useful information / interpretation. And it will use so many words and imbue so little to the conversation, yet appear like it's helping because ... words.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I’m sick of AI products, I’m even more sick of the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument.

I like this take. It has many clear applications already and LLM's are still only in their infancy. I both criticize and use ChatGPT at work. It has flaws and it has advantages. That it's bullshit or "ELIZA" is a short-sighted view that overvalues the importance of AGI and misses what we're already getting. But yes indeed, there are many, many AI products launched during this era of rapid progress. Even kind of shodd…

How are you using it at work?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

#169

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

I wonder if we will look back at this comment (and others like it) as similar to the infamous “takedown” of Dropbox when it was first posted on HN.

Time will tell, I certainly can’t predict.

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