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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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I worked in a top 15 Azure customer. This is not unusual at all, especially in the newer regions. Talk to your TAM before you make attempt major capacity changes in a region. They may have advice on specific SKUs to use or which zones have capacity (e.g. when austrailaeast was being built 80%+ of the capacity was in one zone for many months).

If you aren't a big spender you may not have a TAM who can get this info for you. Welcome to Azure.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR might be a problem here. But this brings us to an important point: this is not your infrastructure, but someone elses.

GDPR isn't really related to the infrastructure, and isn't a problem if you built your product knowing you'll need to conform. Shopify is GDPR compliant, for all merchants, and runs on Google Cloud in multiple regions.

There are specific requirements in Germany that require user data to not leave the country. I believe that was what OP was referring to.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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post #131

> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft You're new to Azure I guess. I'm glad the outage I had yesterday was only the third major one this year, though the one in august made me lose days of traffic, months of back and forth with their support, and a good chunk of my sanity and patience in face of blatant documented lies and general incompetence. One consume…

I have DB connection issues at least a few times a week. Annoying.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Every cloud provider will have these issues with specific instance types in specific regions, although the Azure Germany situation sounds perhaps a bit more dire. At my past (much larger) employers we’ve always run into hardware capacity issues with AWS too - we’re just able to work around them. Building on cloud requires a lot of trade offs, one being a need for very robust cross-region capability and the ability to…

As much as this happens, I don't feel it's something to be expected or even okay. The major cloud services are expensive. This extra cost is supposed to provide for cloud services' high level of flexibility. Running out of capacity should be a rare event and treated as a high priority problem to be fixed asap. Without the ability to rapidly and arbitrarily scale, they're just overpriced server farms.

> they're just overpriced server farms

That's exactly what a cloud is. It's someone else's datacenter with an API.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#165
Good news is that today is Black Friday, so the e-commerce industry is running at peak capacity. In 30 days it will be Christmas, and by then (the very latest!) everybody will scale back, so you have a good chance to gain access to more compute before you reach the end of your runway.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

#166

This is nothing new, Azure has been having capacity problem for over a year now[1]. Germany is not the only region affected at all, it's the case for a number of instance types in some of their larger US regions as well. In the meantime you can still commit to reserved instances, there is just not a guarantee of getting those instances when you need them. The biggest advice I can give is 1. keep trying and grabbing c…

>Azure has been having capacity problem for over a year now This is also a problem internally for Microsoft. GitHub and LinkedIn still operate in private datacenters due to Azure capacity issues

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR might be a problem here. But this brings us to an important point: this is not your infrastructure, but someone elses.

GDPR isn't really related to the infrastructure, and isn't a problem if you built your product knowing you'll need to conform. Shopify is GDPR compliant, for all merchants, and runs on Google Cloud in multiple regions.

Genuine question: is knowledge on how to do this well known? Without that accessibility, I'm picturing folks operating in EU being unwilling to take the risk of not being compliant and just hosting everything in a single region.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually nothing fancy, for sure no GPUs. Just Standard_E4s_v4.

Ah, bummer. If it helps, you can try this to list out VM sizes with comparable capabilities and see if you have better luck with any others (--all not really necessary since it filters by NotAvailableForSubscription and similar): az vm list-skus -l germanynorth -r virtualMachines --all > germanynorth.json jq '.[] | select( any( .capabilities[]; (.name == "vCPUs" and (.value | tonumber) >= 4 )) and any(.capabilities[]…

Thanks a lot! Just checked internally. Apparently are there some instances which we could get but would not work cost wise (have for example a lot of CPUs but we mainly care about RAM). Additionally, is there also still a region-wide CPU limit that would still cause us problems. So sadly not a long-term solution. But thanks a lot!
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