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Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by ForestCritter »

bob_theslob646 wrote: post #90

Isn't it hilarious that you pay money as a subscriber, yet still see ads? To me, that is hilarious . Imagine paying $120 dollars a year for them to still get more out of it's consumers.

It's not any different than paying for newspapers or magazines. People think their subscription price is based on the real costs. Subscriptions pay a small portion of the cost and gaurantee ad revenue. Ad revenue pays for the content. Everybody wants the best content but they would all be screaming if their subscription price bore the full cost of the product.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by ForestCritter »

t0bia_s wrote: post #145
make_it_sure wrote: post #74

Everyone is crazy about privacy, but I don't understand why. If you're not visiting anything illegal, you shouldn't care. It doesn't affect my life at all.

If you don't have anything to say, it doesn't mean that you don't need a freedom of speech. I guess you still close doors while making s*it or use curtains at your window.

Going on the internet is going out in public. If AI is allowed to appropriate anything on the internet because it is the public domain and you forfeited privacy when you put it there, then it is all public and you have no right to privacy. Can't have itboth ways.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

ForestCritter wrote: post #152
t0bia_s wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't have anything to say, it doesn't mean that you don't need a freedom of speech. I guess you still close doors while making s*it or use curtains at your window.

Going on the internet is going out in public. If AI is allowed to appropriate anything on the internet because it is the public domain and you forfeited privacy when you put it there, then it is all public and you have no right to privacy. Can't have itboth ways.

Then share your password for your bank account, please. It's accesible from internet, then it is public by your statement.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by w0m »

t0bia_s wrote: post #142
w0m wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do EVERYTHING in your power to avoid that. The question was, "Why should I care?" A nebulous 'They' have had profiles on all of us since at least the 50s regardless; what's the difference and harm?

You know that your data are valuable and make profit for others. You know that those data can be used to manipulate your decisions, to shape your thoughts, your wallet, your voting... Yet, you dont care?

Hasn't that been society since the advent of advertising, and 'targeted' since at least the 1950s? Everything (and everyone) around you is shaping who you are; I've always attested that the key was to try and be as self aware as possible.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by ForestCritter »

t0bia_s wrote: post #153
ForestCritter wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going on the internet is going out in public. If AI is allowed to appropriate anything on the internet because it is the public domain and you forfeited privacy when you put it there, then it is all public and you have no right to privacy. Can't have itboth ways.

Then share your password for your bank account, please. It's accesible from internet, then it is public by your statement.

My statement is that you can't have it both ways. You can't lay claim to everything a web crawler can get its hands on but then expect privacy when it suits you.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

ForestCritter wrote: post #155
t0bia_s wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then share your password for your bank account, please. It's accesible from internet, then it is public by your statement.

My statement is that you can't have it both ways. You can't lay claim to everything a web crawler can get its hands on but then expect privacy when it suits you.

Why do we have passwords? Or VPN? What are you hiding from us?

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by danogentili »

RGBCube wrote: post #148
danogentili wrote: post #146

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Or you could also install the Fennec browser, install the ublock extension, go to the desktop version of youtube and click on the install PWA button to install the mobile youtube PWA, which will be affected by ublock.

That's just a shortcut to youtube.com on Firefox/Fennec, ReVanced (revanced(dot)app) is a much better solution.

Yeah but I really don't want to install any GMS-related stuff on my phone, not even microg, I don't want to have services hanging in the background wasting RAM just because I sometimes watch YouTube :)

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by RGBCube »

danogentili wrote: post #157
RGBCube wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a shortcut to youtube.com on Firefox/Fennec, ReVanced (revanced(dot)app) is a much better solution.

Yeah but I really don't want to install any GMS-related stuff on my phone, not even microg, I don't want to have services hanging in the background wasting RAM just because I sometimes watch YouTube :)

Fair

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

w0m wrote: post #154
t0bia_s wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know that your data are valuable and make profit for others. You know that those data can be used to manipulate your decisions, to shape your thoughts, your wallet, your voting... Yet, you dont care?

Hasn't that been society since the advent of advertising, and 'targeted' since at least the 1950s? Everything (and everyone) around you is shaping who you are; I've always attested that the key was to try and be as self aware as possible.

I do recommend documentary Ceuntury of Self (2001) about this topic. Apparently more consumer citizens are less confrontational. Idea comes from S. Freud and was implemented by propaganda, later renamed to public relations, of individualism by Edward Bernays in US in 30's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self

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