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Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Yeah I completely agree this is something that needs consideration. I do have an email address with my own domain but for security reasons any accounts I create are tied to my gmail address. I've known too many people who have had personal domain email addresses intercepted, particularly through compromised domain/DNS settings. One simple MX record adjustment could mean every single bank account, social media profile…

Are you able to link to some info on how email could be compromised this way? I'd be interested to learn how to secure my domain.

Whoever hosts your DNS is the weak point. Account and login security with whoever they are is critical.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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For self-host:

- iredmail if you want it simple

- dovecot + postfix + opendkim + opendmarc + bogofilter + rainloop if you like tinkering and you have a small/personal setup. Drop in radicale with imap auth for calendar/contacts, and prosody with imap auth for jabber, and you're good for life, unless people want shiny web interfaces, in which case consider nextcloud for contacts/calendar.

- zimbra as an all-in-one solution

- exim + cyrus if you want mail only for a large company and you want it open source

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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MSFT doesn't read your email to target you with ads.

You really don't know that. MS built Win10 to spy on you and build a business from data mining. Why would they not do that for email? (Or, more likely, change Outlook's ToS to allow it once you are hooked.) You could say that of any email provider, but ProtonMail is under GDPR so it makes it a safer alternative.

> but ProtonMail is under GDPR

I thought GDPR was European union? Protonmail is in Switzerland.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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I’ve been using https://runbox.com with my own domain for 5 years now, and have only good things to say about them. Excellent service.

I moved to Runbox from GMail earlier this year after the AMP-in-mail debacle. I wrote up my criteria and a bunch of different suppliers[1] and Runbox was the pick. I’ve been mostly happy with them, although their uptime hasn’t been brilliant recently.

[1] https://www.robinwhittleton.com/2018/02/18/dropping-g-suite/

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Switched to Fastmail many years ago when self hosting became too time consuming for me. Never looked back. I had to use their support only very occasionally and even then their reaction time and competence were outstanding. They do just one thing - email - and do that very, very well.

They do another thing: calendar. And I find it at least as good as Sunrise Calendar was before Microsoft shut it down.

How do you use their calendar? Do they have a special app or are you talking about the calendar integrated in mail app?

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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There are so many threads like this and the answers usually boil down to the self hosting group and the other group who believes that paying someone to do the job is the right thing to do. I’m in the latter group and always recommend Fastmail. I migrated all of my families accounts there with multiple domains and couldn’t be happier. For something I use hours every day it’s well worth paying someone to keep it secure…

Fastmail has been also flawless for me since signing up. Highly recommended.

I think paid email services are a great idea, but $50 a year and 2 GB of storage for Fastmail seems expensive to me. Why not something closer to five or ten bucks a year? Can someone explain to me why this type of pricing makes sense?

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Fastmail has worked well for me with custom domains. It's nice being able to create custom aliases for when an address is publicly visible e.g. GitHub so I know through what funnel emails are coming from. Like others have said, the Android app is not worth installing unless you're okay with limited and, in some cases, poor functionality. I suppose you can set it up with the Gmail or Outlook Android apps? I've never t…

> Still searching for a good Android mail app... K-9 Mail has served me very well over the years! https://k9mail.github.io/about.html Edit: Highlights for me: - IMAP Idle support: e-mails appear instantly, configurable on a by-folder basis. - Mature and stable: it's been around forever, updates are infrequent, it just works. - Free software: apache license - No fanciness: it is very traditional-email oriented. The on…

I use K-9 Mail too, and while I think it's great (fast and customizable) I think it could use some gestures or more in general a UI revamp to reflect the fact we are not using Ice Cream Sandwich anymore :)
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