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Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
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Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
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Can you share a bit about how to find the second type of recruiter? I've gotten a sense of the dynamic you're describing but have no real idea of how to find good recruiters. As you say, pretty much all of the inbound messages I get are very spammy.
That's a very good question I don't think I have a straightforward answer to. I built my network over time by using LinkedIn suggestions - the more recruiters you connect with the more it will recommend, and now I occasionally get new connection requests from recruiters which I approve if they're relevant to my industry/skills and aren't from the first category. I guess I would just throw a few names out there and le…
Former 3rd party recruiter here, I loved meeting with candidates and hearing about what matters most to them before "pitching" them any opportunities. A good recruiter should learn more about who you are and your career goals before making any suggestions. I would say that is a good benchmark of a recruiter who cares and is not going to try and put a square peg in a round hole, so to speak...
*While I have met some downright bad recruiters in my time, I have also met some really great ones, so if anyone wants a connection to one LMK!
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
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To each their own, but my mom who is nearly 60 and still enjoys working, had good experience with just removing the years from her college and like her first 4 jobs.
I'm not sure what that proves though. I got my last job well into my 50s and my approximate age was certainly no secret to the people hiring me given that I knew them personally. I guess my feeling is that there's generally not a good reason to hide things that are going to be obvious the minute someone lays eyes on you, especially if doing so might itself raise a flag in someone's mind.
Sorry, I should have added: until she did that she wasn't getting any responses.
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
#114I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the HN "who is hiring" threads. I've used them a couple times, and like the format. There are a few ways to search old threads, here's one: https://hnhiring.com/ I think linkedin is another good resource, yes. I know that when I interview people, I always check their linkedin profiles for their previous employment, skills, recommendations, etc.
2 of my last 3 jobs were found in "Who Is Hiring".
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
#115LinkedIn yes, Indeed no. Almost all recruiters (internal and external) are active on LinkedIn. It definitely doesn't hurt to have a good profile... people will reach out to you . Recruiters get a lot of scorn, but I've had good experiences with them as long as you understand their incentives. They usually get some percentage of your starting salary, so let's say they make 15k if your offer is 100k (making up these nu…
I would say they mostly suck. Very slimy, unwilling to divulge basic information and will ghost you in a heartbeat.
From the hiring side, I've seen some help the candidate cheat the interview.
In my experience on both ends, they don't care about good fit nor qualifications. It's a numbers game - throw almost any candidate at a position to hope it gets filled, or contact as many devs as possible to make them a client.
Recruiters that are actually part of the company tend to be better in my experience. I won't even talk to 3rd party recruiters.
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
#116I think keeping LinkedIn current is almost a must, even if you don’t plan on using it as a job search engine. People look at it all the time for different reasons. You’ll probably hear from a lot of recruiters if you do so. Watch out as some are scammers, and many are consulting agencies.
I’m surprised not to see a plug here for WorkAtAStartup.com, YC’s job site. It’s pretty great and usually you get interviews with founders.
Since 2012 the whole recruiting and HR world have adopted applicant tracking systems (ATS) which heavily rely upon resume parsing and keywords. You’ll need to basically do some SEO on your actual resume PDF or .docx to ensure that your skills are visible to those systems. Much has been written about it but I’ll say that vanilla formatting and listing specific skills goes a long way to better visibility.
Do prep for coding interviews, especially with a guide like Cracking the Coding Interview. It’s just one of those skills that is another obligation of being a developer in 2021 like knowing git and containers.
Looking for tech jobs in 2021 is a somewhat brutal and dehumanizing process, but on the plus side compensation is unbelievable right now, demand is high, and remote work is amazingly common. It’s a great time to be a nerd. Good luck to you!
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
#117For ultraspecific, low cost of living Arkansas, this site may be helpful: https://artechjobs.com/ I prefer to walk in to a building and shake hands with CEO/CIO without prior invitation. This has landed me my last 2 (serious) jobs, both of which have been fantastic.
> I prefer to walk in to a building and shake hands with CEO/CIO without prior invitation. Interesting to see how different people can be. I prefer to never meet or see a coworker in person or step foot in an office, which is why the pandemic has been the best time of my life. Even better if the company is so large I'll never meet the CEO or CIO.
Yes, I don't suspect my approach would work at a company beyond a certain size.
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
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I would say they mostly suck. Very slimy, unwilling to divulge basic information and will ghost you in a heartbeat.
And if your cell phone ends up in their list, woo-ee they will call you at 11pm on a Sunday if it means you're more likely to pick up. It would have panicked me to get a call at 11pm at one point in my life, but thanks to recruiters I just never answer the phone at all. Voicemail is my butler.
In the US, there are laws against calling after 9:00. And like you, I don't answer calls from unknown numbers any more, whether or not my phone identifies it as likely scam.
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
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From my experience there are 2 kinds of recruiters. Those most likely operating out of the same boiler rooms as tech support scammers who have pitch terrible roles and employ a spray & pray approach where it's just a spam campaign with very little effort on their side. Those are a waste of time, the roles are terrible and are pretty much never matched to your profile, and when you go through anyway the recruiter will…
Can you share a bit about how to find the second type of recruiter? I've gotten a sense of the dynamic you're describing but have no real idea of how to find good recruiters. As you say, pretty much all of the inbound messages I get are very spammy.
Look at who was in charge of recruiting at the VC backed companies your friends joined.
Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?
#120I got my current job by just checking the careers pages at companies I knew I liked. It worked!