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it really opened my eyes to a whole new way of looking at the movement Interesting. Can you share more details on the new perspective you got from being there?
Most projects I have been involved with were related to my PhD at that time, numerical computing kind of stuff in python. Going to the conferences in Europe or the US, it is already quite exciting because you see a lot of people, in academics and otherwise, using the softwares you contributed to. You make some tasks more enjoyable because the tools are more powerful, etc... Now, in India, the dynamics are really diff…
Ask HN: After almost 30 years the romance is over - What now?
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#112I actually probably have nearly the same history as you. Graduated about the same time as you. Been fascinated with computing as long as you. And just about as fed up with the current state of things as you. I think the difference between us is I've got some notoriety so I'm looking to at least try to tear down the current situation before I get out of here. I figure might as well give it a shot, and if it doesn't wo…
The hard part here, of course, is coming up with something else to do. While basically sound advise, after years of a wakeup-work-eat-bed cycle while worrying about the negative content of the bank account, thinking around a corner is hard, let alone thinking outside the box. But I'll try not to force the issue and see what comes up.
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#113Sharing of ideas in Open Source; Happens all the time, maybe it is now too technical for you to follow, and family interests keep you from digging in enough to catch up.
Sharing of ideas of the future; Happens all the time, in blogs, tweets and what not. In fact, we are getting drowned by so much information that it becomes a challenge to filter the noise. AND you have a new idea right there; Give me something to filter the garbage out and serve me the gems on a plate. Such tool itself will accelerate ideas collaboration even more.
Privacy concerns; Centralized so called "cloud services" at various levels are going extinct in the future, because of privacy will become a massive sore points, possibly after some scandals (need to brew a decade or so for full effect). So, prepare social network system that is truly distributed and where the consumer control exactly what is shared with whom and how, and can take it off-line...
I think over a week-end with a lot of supply of beer, I think a group of visionaries can come up with 10-20 solid new things that is both doable, and should inspire people who like to GetThingsDone.
So, the final question to you; Are you the consumer or the producer of the great things to come??
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most projects I have been involved with were related to my PhD at that time, numerical computing kind of stuff in python. Going to the conferences in Europe or the US, it is already quite exciting because you see a lot of people, in academics and otherwise, using the softwares you contributed to. You make some tasks more enjoyable because the tools are more powerful, etc... Now, in India, the dynamics are really diff…
Thanks. Always good to learn new things. I'm an Indian but wasn't aware of this particular advantage OSS is bringing out here. (May be because I have never been involved in a Masters/PhD program.)
Re: Ask HN: After almost 30 years the romance is over - What now?
#115I actually probably have nearly the same history as you. Graduated about the same time as you. Been fascinated with computing as long as you. And just about as fed up with the current state of things as you. I think the difference between us is I've got some notoriety so I'm looking to at least try to tear down the current situation before I get out of here. I figure might as well give it a shot, and if it doesn't wo…
The hard part here, of course, is coming up with something else to do. While basically sound advise, after years of a wakeup-work-eat-bed cycle while worrying about the negative content of the bank account, thinking around a corner is hard, let alone thinking outside the box. But I'll try not to force the issue and see what comes up.
Well, thinking around a corner means you're already on the outside of the box. ;) Considering you posted this to HN, you're already thinking around corners. I think you should give yourself (and HN) a bit more credit.
Though you never used the term "bored," you more or less described yourself as being bored and your situation as being boring. I'd like to share a wonderful piece of wisdom given to me by my friend, Reginia Riley.
Fascination is a choice. When you choose to be fascinated, you are fascinating. When you choose to be bored, you are boring. In essence, when you say "I'm bored," you are actually saying, "I'm boring." At the same time, fascination is the source of motivation.
If you find yourself being often bored, the above is tough to accept. Some even find it insulting. But it is true and the sooner you accept it, the sooner you'll no longer be both bored and boring. On the other hand, fascination with something tends to be contagious for others and tends to lead to fascination with other things.
If you've done half the things you've claimed, then you are motivated by challenge. You were fascinated by the challenge of figuring out the technical bits (pun intended). Sure, far too much of HN is "money this" and "money that" for startup-du-jour. Sure, money is a way to keep score for businesses, but few ever realize their real driving force is the challenge of entrepreneurship. In this regard, the fascination with the challenge of technology is extremely similar to the fascination with the challenge of entrepreneurship. The root cause is the same.
In technology alone there are countless challenges just waiting for you to choose to be fascinated by them, but it doesn't end with just tech; countless challenges and fascinations exist everywhere.
Your own curiosity and fascination are priceless. When you decided to give them up, what were you given in exchange for something so priceless?
Yes, I know this post may strike too close to home. I know it might hurt. I know you might resent me for it, well, at least at first. It was like that for me many decades ago when I needed to learn this lesson. None the less, by sharing what I learned, I do have your best interest at heart. You're asking to treat the symptoms, but I decided to treat the cause.
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#116I think the "loop" is indeed moving on. The last real mini-revolution this side of the line probably were torrents. The whole social web is just wrong. It's centralized. It's not the web - it is a corruption of it. It is like the great minds who could design truly de-centralized, robust, reliable and truly social structures have all just vanished. There are so many difficult and important problems around but no one w…
> There are so many difficult and important problems around but no one wants to solve them just because there is a huge ??? I have thought about this the other day -- "what has happened to P2P technologies?". There used to be a lot of excitement about it, there was flurry of academic research on distributed consistent hashing, lots of P2P networks appearing, and now, it seems, bittorrent is all that is left of it.
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[edw519] What I really care about is how my software is used. And who uses it [heliodorj] The main motivator and source of satisfaction for software developers is the human aspect, not the technology itself. Is your product making a difference in someone's life? I think these two statements show a profound misunderstanding of what motivates a lot (if not most) hackers. What gets a lot of people into this field in the…
Innocent-looking question from an ex-AI researcher: Take a moment, and disregard your technological know-how (the fact that you think you know how it works), and consider Google strictly as a black-box. Which functionalities of a strong AI have they not delivered (or are not well within the way to be delivering) so far?
It's also bad at summarizing information. I can get a scattered set of results for lots of topics, but it can't synthesize those results into a nice executive-summary paragraph for me. Never mind even better summarization, like searching for a topic that has no Wikipedia article yet, and having Google's algorithms write the article for me to read!
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#118This is kind of a useful sign actually. When things look bleak like this, it usually means you're on the verge of something radically new ... and that's exciting to think about. Its like the guy who said "lets close the patent office 'cos everything that can be invented has already been invented." This might be useful too - A long time ago, someone on HN wrote about a similar give up point he came to in his life (sor…
I took a year off from working the web and did things like courier work, bush regeneration and bus driving.
After a couple of months in each of these jobs i would get mentally restless and i soon discovered that the reason that i was working in the web world is because it is interesting and i am good at it.
Sounds like the OP took a step back to see all the other amazing possibilities in life, but didnt step back long enough to appreciate his own position.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Innocent-looking question from an ex-AI researcher: Take a moment, and disregard your technological know-how (the fact that you think you know how it works), and consider Google strictly as a black-box. Which functionalities of a strong AI have they not delivered (or are not well within the way to be delivering) so far?
If we go by the following definition of Strong AI (from Wikipedia) Strong AI is artificial intelligence that matches or exceeds human intelligence — the intelligence of a machine that can successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can then there are lots of things that Google can't do that many human beings can. For example, when you do an image search, the results are sometimes laughable, and that…
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> There are so many difficult and important problems around but no one wants to solve them just because there is a huge ??? I have thought about this the other day -- "what has happened to P2P technologies?". There used to be a lot of excitement about it, there was flurry of academic research on distributed consistent hashing, lots of P2P networks appearing, and now, it seems, bittorrent is all that is left of it.
All the porn probably took the shine off it. Looks less like the future and more like a grubby swapmeet in a red light district.