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Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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I used to do a lot of offline marketing of online products and made some good money. What I mean by this is selling sites/hosting/newsletter hosting to small, local businesses. I did this when I was tight on cash, since it can usually be done in a weekend: research a local group of businesses (ie. dentists or furniture stores) using Google Maps and grab all of their info. See which businesses don't have websites - an…

I posted an article from SAI the other day. Only 25% of local businesses are advertising online. Mostly because it's complicated and scary as shit to them. Of those 25%, 60-80% churn. That's because the companies doing this are so bloated that they only spend 50-60% on the actual ad buy and the rest on admin expenses. So yeah, the performance sucks. I also read 91% of local businesses are unhappy with their online ma…

My friend made a healthy full time income dealing with just local advertising and building a network of sites for his city (some place in Pennsylvania).

Businesses spend a ridiculous amount of money on offline advertising (ie. Yellowpages), so much that when you come to them offering online advertising for ridiculously low prices ($50-100/mo.) they just go for it most of the time. A Yellowpages ad can cost $500-1500/mo. for a tiny little placement.

My friend essentially built a network of niche sites for his city, so {cityname}furniture.com, {cityname}dentists, {cityname}antiques etc. The sites were just simple directories with some content, a contact/request a quote form and a list of local businesses. He'd gather a list of businesses and contact them all explaining the site and how it would cost them $50/mo. for a listing, it would help their search rankings, bring traffic, generate leads and new business, etc.

He said his best money was actually made off dentists and he had to break the site up into {neighbourhood}dentists because there were so many in the city interested. A typical site would feature 3-4 banner ads that cost $100/mo. (little 125x125 squares for each dental firm), and then around 10 or so $50/mo. business listings (custom page, images of office, testimonials, etc).

It's fair to say a single site would net him $800/mo - of course this varies on the type of business being targeted, but there are so many kinds of businesses to target that you won't be able to capture every market in the city.

On top of things, he made money generating leads for the businesses. For the dentist example, he had a "request a quote" form that basically got people to explain what they wanted done, budget, their contact info, etc. He sold leads for ~$20 each (would make the different dentists bid on them). This is nothing for most places as a lead can turn into $1000 worth of business in the first appointment, and thousands more over the years as that patient returns.

If you can create a value added service locally and get people onboard for next to nothing (as they see it, $50 is nothing), then you have a real opportunity to make some cash. Take this to the next level and start managing their PPC campaigns and managing ad deals and you have yourself a healthy local market - most of which you can find someone cheap to handle (around the cost of a secretary, anyone with a bit of technical know-how will do).

Bringing all this stuff up again kind of makes me want to go back into it.. hmm. weekend project perhaps?

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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* Create Wordpress Plugins that do small tasks and sell them inexpensively. * Create small sitescripts that do only one small task and sell them for like $70. For instance, paid and free listing directory scripts, a twitpic.com clone, etc. * Create really nice XHTML/CSS and/or WordPress themes. I used to think those themes didn't make money, but then I heard that WooThemes pulled in $2M in 2009. So, that sent me for…

Excellent list. For selling sites, I recommend flippa.com. Averaging 7 to 12 times last month's revenue is very common. On a side note, is it just me, or is Hacker News getting more and more interested in affiliate marketing?

Could just be more and more affiliate marketers are finding Hacker News :)

I'm slowly going back into affiliate marketing and product creation (did it for years, but became a consultant). Scalable income intrigues me (and I'm sure many others), never really liked the whole hours for dollars trade.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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I have a domain and an idea, I pay you $400 and you work on this project and launch it in a month. Revenue is advertising. I own the site/code, you get the revenue from ads up to $400, anything excess is mine to keep. How's that?

No offense but that's a terrible deal. He does all the work (in a month at that), owns nothing and gets paid after you get $400 in advertising revenue, which could take months depending on the product.

"I pay you $400" suggests that he gets paid immediately, regardless, then gets $400 in ad revenue ( if any ), the the poster is left with the site and any further ad revenue.

Which sounds a lot better than your interpretation.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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"Second, sell a killer screencast or e-book" Thanks for providing a spark of inpiration here! When I was in college I earned extra money teaching private guitar lessons. When I finally moved on a student of mine was kind enough to photo copy and hand me to a transcription of every_single_lesson I'd given them over three years. This stack of paper has been sitting on my shelf for nostalgic purposes only ... until now.

I run a simple little site that works as the middleman between PayPal "Buy It Now" buttons and shooting off an email with an expiring download link from a secure server. I'd be happy to give you a couple months free to dabble in ebooks! Hit me up at contact[@]bitbuffet[.]com if you wanna give it a spin!

Hi, I'm not trying to be a jerk and it's very kind of you to offer a freebie here :) ... but I believe Google Checkout already does this for free (I recall helping an ebook author set this up) - but maybe I am missing something you offer than Google Checkout does not.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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That's interesting because I wanted to sit in on the computational photography course at NYU and the registrar said it was impossible. Maybe I should have avoided talking to the administration? However, I did email the instructor and he did not return any of my email. How do you even get into the buildings without an ID?

You walk up just behind someone with an ID, and then you walk in before the door closes.

It's hard/impossible to do this at NYU.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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post #96

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I run a simple little site that works as the middleman between PayPal "Buy It Now" buttons and shooting off an email with an expiring download link from a secure server. I'd be happy to give you a couple months free to dabble in ebooks! Hit me up at contact[@]bitbuffet[.]com if you wanna give it a spin!

Hi, I'm not trying to be a jerk and it's very kind of you to offer a freebie here :) ... but I believe Google Checkout already does this for free (I recall helping an ebook author set this up) - but maybe I am missing something you offer than Google Checkout does not.

Google checkout only work in a few countries.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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post #37

I earned about that much, completely passive, within 2 mos and it's been recurring with no extra work, doing some basic SEO and adsense work, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1merER1zVFg , skip to minute 2:40 to see my business model in work

Cool video, but it seems like all the "magic" is taking place in the custom software, and the details aren't revealed. Anyone have more insight about this?

The custom software just parses this https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal tools and sends the selected keywords by mail to his writer. Nothing exceptional.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run a simple little site that works as the middleman between PayPal "Buy It Now" buttons and shooting off an email with an expiring download link from a secure server. I'd be happy to give you a couple months free to dabble in ebooks! Hit me up at contact[@]bitbuffet[.]com if you wanna give it a spin!

Hi, I'm not trying to be a jerk and it's very kind of you to offer a freebie here :) ... but I believe Google Checkout already does this for free (I recall helping an ebook author set this up) - but maybe I am missing something you offer than Google Checkout does not.

I'm not too up on Google's Checkout offering, but we have some stats and pretty graphs and such, multiple buttons, and we work with PayPal (which has more of a name recognition for buyers anyways).

I'll definitely look into Google Checkout though, its probably a great option for selling ebooks like you said.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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First, a Web service that "meets an unmet need." Back in 2005 I built a "code snippets" site using the then-nascent Rails in just over 24 hours. I then spent a second day making the design more "Web 2.0" a few months later, but otherwise did little except mention it here and there and add my own code into it. It made ~$800 a month from Adsense for a couple of years and then I sold it to DZone for $30,000. Perhaps the…

So, how much do e-book writers have to worry about piracy? It would seem that the barrier for entry, so to speak, for piracy of a PDF is a lot lower than for software, especially as it seems that someone's more likely to email their friend "this cool article" rather than "this software" with its attendant installation hassles.

Re: Ask HN: Fastest way to make $300-400 a month online?

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Cool video, but it seems like all the "magic" is taking place in the custom software, and the details aren't revealed. Anyone have more insight about this?

The custom software just parses this https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal tools and sends the selected keywords by mail to his writer. Nothing exceptional.

The software seems to do a few things:

1) Parse the CSV 2) Google search for each term, and get the # of hits (ie. the competition), and the page ranks of the top few pages. 3) Filters out, and displays the ones that are worth going after.

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