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Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

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Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#12

> Everything is double-digit YOY growth with impending exit I'm going to say, on a random job board, this is actually the vast minority of jobs. Most, even at FAANG, have lots of unsexy maintenance that just needs to get done. Even in fancy machine learning land (where I work) 99% of the work is fairly 'boring' in the traditional sense. Also, there is a strong bias to talk about 'sexy' work outside the company. For a…

> Nobody does a conference talk about the uninteresting boring work that gets done.

Id go to that

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#13
If a company has 9 racks with their legacy products and 1 product sounding like the ones you describe, then the job ad will mention the kubernetes all the things product/job, but if you apply you'll be maintaining 10 products where 9 aren't very sexy at all.

So unless the company is extremely young (say younger than 10 years) then there will be tech of all ages and all levels of sexy.

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#14
I think many places with a setup like you describe don't have in-house staff to manage their tech.

I briefly worked for an agency early in my career where most of the clients had WordPress or Magento sites with low to moderate traffic. They would usually only need a few hours a month each, so it wouldn't have made sense for them to hire full time programmers or sysadmins.

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

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> Everything is double-digit YOY growth with impending exit I'm going to say, on a random job board, this is actually the vast minority of jobs. Most, even at FAANG, have lots of unsexy maintenance that just needs to get done. Even in fancy machine learning land (where I work) 99% of the work is fairly 'boring' in the traditional sense. Also, there is a strong bias to talk about 'sexy' work outside the company. For a…

> Nobody does a conference talk about the uninteresting boring work that gets done. Id go to that

sounds like some kind of crypto-free utopia

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#18
Smartleaf runs out of high-quality third-party datacenters on hardware we buy, install and maintain ourselves, running Ruby on Rails and C++ and Oracle/Postgresql on Debian with borg backups. Is that close enough?

We also deploy with Chef and an in-house application deployment system written in Perl, do monitoring with mon, and understand that a sysadmin is a subject matter expert.

Hiring, too.

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#19
Local/regional companies outside of tier 1 cities. Before the pandemic they only hired locally and their salaries were good for the US but 1/3 to 1/2 of salaries in NYC and SF. Companies that were bootstrapped within an hour or two of Philly, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, Virginia Beach, Jacksonville, Sacramento, you get the picture.
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