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Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by Marsymars »

massysett wrote: post #79
noman-land wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If an ad isn't blocked, I fast forward through it. If I can't fast forward, I mute it. If I can't mute it, I'll mute my computer and change tabs for the duration. If it's a page in a magazine, I flip it quickly. If it's a billboard I'll avert my gaze. If it's in an airplane I take out my headphones and cover the screen. I find being advertised to so annoying there's no way in hell I will spend my limited time on this…

Or you could not consume the content.

The problem I run into is e.g. if I need to replace the the steering wheel cruise control buttons in my car, a random youtuber doing that is the only reasonable option getting instructions on that, which isn't something a youtube subscription scales to.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by tredre3 »

Dwedit wrote: post #69
anaisbetts wrote: post #7

Welp, the biggest reason that I use Edge just got thrown out, time to switch to Firefox.

Until 2023, Edge was sending every URL you visited to bingapis.com. Microsoft's current privacy statement also says "Depending on your settings, this browsing history is sent to Microsoft"

> Microsoft's current privacy statement also says "Depending on your settings, this browsing history is sent to Microsoft"

Edge allows to sync history (as Chrome and Firefox also do). Given that functionality, what else do you want them to say in their privacy statement..?

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by iso1631 »

WhyIsItAlwaysHN wrote: post #19
massysett wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t use adblockers. If a site has too many ads to be usable, I don’t visit it.

So no youtube?

You talking about the creators that have ads in their videos?

I tend to skip those, although map men's are good, but I also tend to prefer those who don't have ads.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by Arnt »

est wrote: post #49

Why do browser vendors have such a control over browsers? Can anyone make a dll injection and bring back manifest v2 ?

Sure, just change the source and build from source.

The reason is that V2 opened the door to some fairly nasty attacks. "This extension can read everything you enter on any form". There were some extensions that did exactly what you're thinking of.

I suspect that nobody will make a browser that lets a plugin do that any more. It's easy, but on closer reflection, would you do it?

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by Marsymars »

Balinares wrote: post #9
poulpy123 wrote: post #4

I honestly don't know how people do without ad blockers. Even with being ok with ads, they are so overwhelming that I could not use internet without blocking them

In case your assumption here is that TFA is about Edge disabling adblockers: it's not. It's just removing ManifestV2 support. ManifestV3 is still supported. Despite what one might assume, MV3 does not seem to measurably diminish the effectiveness of adblockers; if anything, it improves it. (Source: https://petsymposium.org/popets/2026/popets-2026-0027.php )

I've found ad-blockers other than uBlock Origin MV2 to struggle with particularly aggressive anti-adblocking scripts.

I don't particularly notice, but my wife was getting frustrated last night when she was looking for recipes, an ad network was blocked at the DNS level, and despite local ad-blockers, every recipe site she was visiting was redirecting her to a "please disable your ad blocker" page.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by Marsymars »

anticrymactic wrote: post #114
raverbashing wrote: post #2

I guess it still will be the best browser to download Firefox

> I guess it still will be the best browser to download Firefox ```cmd winget install Mozilla.Firefox ``` Should always work out-of-the-box now.

Good as long as you don't want the EME-free version.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by gorhill »

novafunc wrote: post #55
s0ss wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inferior alternative

I've used uBlock Origin Lite and have had no issues with blocking ads. The only downside I've seen is that I can't do "Block Elements" to hide non-ad annoying parts of sites.

> can't do "Block Elements"

In uBO Lite, it's called "Create a custom filter" in the popup panel.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by tredre3 »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #105
g8oz wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Vivaldi, but it also uses Chromium. If an extension is not in the Chrome Web store Vivaldi will not be able to install it. Firefox seems to be the only reasonably mainstream option for proper ad blocking.

Vivaldi has ad blocking built into it, and has no issue with you enabling developer settings and sideloading extensions from a file you download from Github Releases.

Vivaldi is still dropping support for MV2, which means no more uBlock Origin (non-lite). Being able to side-load extensions doesn't matter if the API is gone.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by tredre3 »

c0_0p_ wrote: post #119
NeutralWanted wrote: post #85

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I'd rather have 100% of devices on my network have near 90% of all ads effectively ad blocked than deal with installing ad blockers on all possible clients. Sure, I use an ad blocker on my personal machine with firefox, but none of the phones besides mine does. None of the family that visits do. Barely any of my friends that come over do. None of the TVs and streaming devices and whatnot do. I am blocking more ads fr…

I'm surprised to hear that it's so successful beyond banner ads. I figured most platforms would use the same domain for their ads as their content. I'm pretty sure YouTube and my "smart" TV do that. Plus I'd prefer to use DNS over HTTPS instead of using unencrypted DNS.

> Plus I'd prefer to use DNS over HTTPS instead of using unencrypted DNS.

Running unbound or a pi-hole on your network doesn't preclude that.

Your devices talks to the gateway/router/pi-hole on the network, who will then use your chosen DoH providers for upstream requests.

Re: Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did

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Post by pessimizer »

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #111

This is why we all need to rally around Firefox (or Librewolf, or Waterfox, or whatever fork you prefer) and make sure that sacred goose is never tampered with.

That goose was already roasted. Firefox can't be trusted with Mozilla because Mozilla can't be trusted with Firefox. They intervened in the most important antitrust trial so far this millennium on Google's side (to support paying off their direct competitors), contributing to actual harm to society.

Somebody who has already made their money needs to fork the thing and put it into an actual public service nonprofit, rather than another creepy branch of the nonprofit-military-industrial complex. Not somebody whose CEO came from Voice of America, WeWork, Wikipedia, Northrop-Grumman, the NSA or some bank, talking about how much they need to innovate and create strategic partnerships. Instead, get somebody who wants to make and maintain a safe, minimal, light, modular browser that works exclusively for its user, and whose components can be easily be included in other projects.

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