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Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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The behaviour of both parties is, at best, childish.

Thesis is clearly breaking the law (as WordPress has defined it -and rightly so-); but it should not ignite more than a tweet or a blog post by Matt. Matt can also go a long way as suggesting not to buy non-GPL licensed products for WordPress.

I don't really understand Matt aggressive (and childish) reaction. He is obviously not in the same play field, size or ambitions as Thesis. He also got his whole company (Automattic) into this strictly personal issue, by purchasing the domain (and probably hiring the lawyers) with Automattic assets/$$.

Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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I suppose directing your 384-employee company to spend $100,000+ and a whole lot of lawyer-hours getting revenge over a personal grudge is a benefit of keeping the company private and closely held.

Mr. Pearson wrote things up from his point of view this month as well: http://www.pearsonified.com/2015/07/truth-about-thesis-com.p...

Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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post #3

The behaviour of both parties is, at best, childish. Thesis is clearly breaking the law (as WordPress has defined it -and rightly so-); but it should not ignite more than a tweet or a blog post by Matt. Matt can also go a long way as suggesting not to buy non-GPL licensed products for WordPress. I don't really understand Matt aggressive (and childish) reaction. He is obviously not in the same play field, size or ambi…

I would imagine he knows he made a series of mistakes but cant find the exit :(

Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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post #5
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The behaviour of both parties is, at best, childish. Thesis is clearly breaking the law (as WordPress has defined it -and rightly so-); but it should not ignite more than a tweet or a blog post by Matt. Matt can also go a long way as suggesting not to buy non-GPL licensed products for WordPress. I don't really understand Matt aggressive (and childish) reaction. He is obviously not in the same play field, size or ambi…

I would imagine he knows he made a series of mistakes but cant find the exit :(

I dunno, this latest thing over thesis.com is so outlandishly childish it's almost beyond belief. If I were on the board of Automattic I'd be showing him the exit, at least for a little while. This is not the measured behavior of someone I'd trust with making decisions for a multi-hundred-million dollar company.

Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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The last time I looked into the WP theme GPL issue, by some of the mentioned logic, every PHP script ever written and distributed would end up being a derivative work of the PHP engine.

One way to get around some of it, is to use WP as a data store and management layer, with your own 2nd layer on top of it, that does use WP's functions to pull that data out, but is not a theme that has to be installed nor activated.

Which is a actually what I've done with my website - but that's not why... It's basically a mini-cms that first checks the file system for the page, and if not found, calls into wordpress.

Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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The last time I looked into the WP theme GPL issue, by some of the mentioned logic, every PHP script ever written and distributed would end up being a derivative work of the PHP engine. One way to get around some of it, is to use WP as a data store and management layer, with your own 2nd layer on top of it, that does use WP's functions to pull that data out, but is not a theme that has to be installed nor activated.…

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Re: Thesis, Automattic, and WordPress: A Conflict of Ideology

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I don't understand how the word "thesis" can be both "generic", as Automattic repeatedly claim, and "merely descriptive", as they claim in their trademark attack. There is probably some intersection between these two concepts, but it's very small. Perhaps "Salty" as a potential trademark for potato chips would be an example?
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