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Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#2
Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about).

So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much this feature but it does not help to know if the average user is finding it useful, I would bet on my case average users are not even using it since you need to create a separate account, but anyway, we will see.

And also, in my opinion, Firefox became a great product by trying new things. And as always, when you change things, sometimes it does not work, sometimes you explore in other directions, you need to experiment a bit.

PS: Downvoting-me does not change these facts.

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#3
Mozilla is not a merry band of hackers anymore. They're a bona fida corporation with its own agenda. Their agenda depends on having as many users as possible so they're trying to make everything they can for that. The free web, choice and all that become second place now.

PS : Look at their corporate HQ.

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#5
When did they build in Pocket? I didn't like when they added Hello but this seems even stranger. I guess they're getting money from Pocket for it in the same way they get money from Google for search but users can opt-out of Google search - from those complaints it doesn't sound possible for Pocket. (Please let me know if I'm wrong).

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#6

Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about). So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much t…

very much agree. I honestly don't see what the hubub is all about.

Re: privacy, Firefox maintains it's commitment and integrity. The pocket integration is very transparent (pocket has agreed to open-source it), and the tech-saavy people that seem to be the only people this offends can disable with about:config.

Honestly, it seems that people seem to be upset about the idea that Firefox is raising money outside of donations. I for one am very happy about them finding revenue sources that also add functionality for users, all while maintaining user privacy as a main interest.

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#7

Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about). So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much t…

I understand the hip trend of only thinking about an inept fool who can barely click a link in a browser, but the reality is that a large percentage of Firefox's users are educated users who are concerned about things like openness and privacy. Chrome, Safari and Internet Explorer have a fairly strong grip on the technically unskilled user. Can Mozilla survive in marketshare without this group? I have a feeling we are going to find out soon enough.

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#8

Yes sure, It's really negative feedback here but the majority of users commenting there have technical knowledge as you can see in the comments and most people are only commenting when they don't like things anyway, you never have any thanks if they like things (if you ever created something used by other people, you know what I'm talking about). So we can see that technical people (including me) don't like so much t…

>it does not help to know if the average user is finding it useful

The feedback itself isn't helpful, but the data about the percentage of users using the Pocket add-on should be.

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#9
post #3

Mozilla is not a merry band of hackers anymore. They're a bona fida corporation with its own agenda. Their agenda depends on having as many users as possible so they're trying to make everything they can for that. The free web, choice and all that become second place now. PS : Look at their corporate HQ.

The Mozilla Corporation is completely owned by the Mozilla Foundation, a non-profit with a manifesto https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/ that reads in part, "Individuals’ security and privacy on the Internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional."

Re: User feedback on Pocket submitted to Mozilla

#10
post #4

These are mostly childish comment, not really HN worthy.

And yours is?

Most of the comments center around the same idea: Mozilla removed the choice of which "read later" service to use by default, by baking it into the browser itself instead of leaving it as an extension or add-on, where it and all the other services like it belong.

So, now if you have a user who doesn't want a "read later" service, they have to take the extra steps to disable the button and go into about:config to completely turn it off. For the users who do want a "read later" service but don't want to use Pocket, they now have whatever they install via extension, plus Pocket, which is redundant and silly.

Basically, all this integration has accomplished is bloating Firefox to serve the single digit percentage of past Pocket extension users (many of whom will continue to use the extension since that's what they are used to), and maybe grab a few hundred more who see the new Pocket icon and decide to keep using it after trying it out.

If they had gone with an open platform for this service, or even better, their own homegrown solution, I wouldn't be upset by it. As it stands, Firefox was supposed to be the open standard the other browsers should strive to imitate; instead, it is steadily spiraling downward. This is becoming a pattern, and it's not a pretty one.

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