ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by keevon » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 7:06 PM UTC

ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage
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Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by almost » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 8:33 PM UTC

I don't understand how "You have to remember to put all your files in a special folder" (Dropbox) is much different than "You have to remember to put all your files on a special drive".

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by tlb » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 9:15 PM UTC

almost wrote: post #2

I don't understand how "You have to remember to put all your files in a special folder" (Dropbox) is much different than "You have to remember to put all your files on a special drive".

On systems that support symlinks like OSX and Linux they can be made to look equivalent, but under Windows the differences are noticeable.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by mbreese » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 9:32 PM UTC

tlb wrote: post #3

almost wrote: post #2

I don't understand how "You have to remember to put all your files in a special folder" (Dropbox) is much different than "You have to remember to put all your files on a special drive".

On systems that support symlinks like OSX and Linux they can be made to look equivalent, but under Windows the differences are noticeable.

NTFS supports symlinks... it's just that Windows doesn't (or didn't, I don't know about now) include an easy interface for setting them.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by elblanco » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 9:55 PM UTC

The real question seems to be "how is this different than dropbox?"

Looks like they are targeting it more as a way to share data among a myriad of devices, like PCs and Smartphones, vs. dropbox's more limited focus on just PCs.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by grourk » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 10:14 PM UTC

almost wrote: post #2

I don't understand how "You have to remember to put all your files in a special folder" (Dropbox) is much different than "You have to remember to put all your files on a special drive".

He was most likely referring to the ZumoDrive "folder linking" feature, where you can link an existing folder on your system with ZumoDrive, instead of moving it.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by jurjenh » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 10:48 PM UTC

mbreese wrote: post #4

tlb wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On systems that support symlinks like OSX and Linux they can be made to look equivalent, but under Windows the differences are noticeable.

NTFS supports symlinks... it's just that Windows doesn't (or didn't, I don't know about now) include an easy interface for setting them.

I use NTFSLink (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfslinkext/) which makes it very easy. Right-click in a folder and select New... and then you can choose NTFS Hardlink or NTFS Junction point.

Great app and combined with DropBox, I can sync data folders without having to move them.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by Ennis » Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 11:07 PM UTC

These services are so expensive! I use jungledisk right now and it's dirt cheap compared to the rest.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by cliff » Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 12:33 AM UTC

jurjenh wrote: post #7

mbreese wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NTFS supports symlinks... it's just that Windows doesn't (or didn't, I don't know about now) include an easy interface for setting them.

I use NTFSLink ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfslinkext/ ) which makes it very easy. Right-click in a folder and select New... and then you can choose NTFS Hardlink or NTFS Junction point. Great app and combined with DropBox, I can sync data folders without having to move them.

Hardlinks and junction points are -not- symbolic links, and have lots of esoteric restrictions and consequences of use.

NTFS does support symbolic links as of Vista.

Re: ZumoDrive (YC S07) Is a Silver Lining In 'Cloud' Storage

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Post by dfragnito » Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 3:55 AM UTC

The marginal cost for storing a unit of data must be close to zero after the initial storage space is consumed. Or am I missing something? If that is true then why do the monthly costs not go down, assuming that the same amount of data is stored. Ok there is bandwith and disk I/O cost If I access the data, but if I just use it for archiving purposes these services are way over priced(even S3). There is the the off site aspect but that can be solved with a little ingenuity, two USB devices, a friend, some encryption, and the Internet.