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Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

A lawyer in India sent a cease and desist email to a developer (in, I'm assuming, India) for posting javascript that's being used as an injection attack (for a mobile network provider) against insecure http requests, under the guise of "service enhancement".

https://github.com/thejeshgn/airtel-3g-script-injection

"The said code is closed source software and our client is sole proprietor of the same. Therefore, no one can use the said code without obtaining license from our client against payment of fees and/or royalties and on commercial and legal terms acceptable to our client. Your aforementioned actions constitute a blatant violation of our client's copyrights and other proprietary rights in the said code."

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

Basically this company is injecting javascript into their responses. This guy noticed this and put up a github repo with details on what they are doing and the code they are injecting.

The company is asking him to take down the code, because it violates their copy right and he can't legally distribute without purchasing a license.

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

> ELI5

"Explain like I'm five" for anyone else who wasn't in the know on that slang (like me until a second ago)

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

First off, I had to navigate to this link[0] before I could read the pdf properly. Archive.org seems to be going through a redesign.

What makes this C&D seem asinine to me is that one of his "infringing" artifacts is a screenshot[1] of Chrome viewing their website's source code.

[0] https://archive.org/stream/LEGALNOTICETOTHEJESHGNCEASEANDDES...

[1] https://github.com/thejeshgn/airtel-3g-script-injection/blob...

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

A lawyer in India sent a cease and desist email to a developer (in, I'm assuming, India) for posting javascript that's being used as an injection attack (for a mobile network provider) against insecure http requests, under the guise of "service enhancement". https://github.com/thejeshgn/airtel-3g-script-injection "The said code is closed source software and our client is sole proprietor of the same. Therefore, no one…

The said code is closed source software

They can invoke the proprietary/copyright claims, but saying that JS is "closed source" just doesn't make sense when the source code is what gets distributed. IMHO it's the same situation with HTML and CSS.

(IANAL, etc.)

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lawyer in India sent a cease and desist email to a developer (in, I'm assuming, India) for posting javascript that's being used as an injection attack (for a mobile network provider) against insecure http requests, under the guise of "service enhancement". https://github.com/thejeshgn/airtel-3g-script-injection "The said code is closed source software and our client is sole proprietor of the same. Therefore, no one…

The said code is closed source software They can invoke the proprietary/copyright claims, but saying that JS is "closed source" just doesn't make sense when the source code is what gets distributed. IMHO it's the same situation with HTML and CSS. (IANAL, etc.)

How does copyright work in India? Any fair use exemptions?

Re: Re: Cease and Desist Notice – Infringement of Copyright

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As much as I hate to use this on HN, could someone ELI5 this for me - I get what a C and D is, why is this relevant?

> ELI5 "Explain like I'm five" for anyone else who wasn't in the know on that slang (like me until a second ago)

And before the pedants get here: No, not like a literal five-year-old. It means "Explain like I'm a reasonably intelligent adult with no special domain knowledge" but that becomes a mouthful, even if you abbreviate it. Complaining about how this expression has been corrupted by virtue of being used how it's always been used is so original.
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