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AMD Launches Carrizo

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Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again.

I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be.

Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel will be pushing 10 before they get down to 20/22... Maybe I'm just nostalgic of my overclocked Athlon 64 but I'd love to see AMD make a comeback and the nm gap between AMD and Intel just seems like kneecapping the underdog.

Realistically they are going to be launching this against Skylake and I can't help but think all the advantages they are promoting are going to get nullified by that. (HEVC and gaming performance)

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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post #2

I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again. I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be. Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel w…

It looks like AMD is skipping 20/22:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)

http://www.pcgamer.com/amds-next-gen-zen-cpu-due-in-2016/

Seems like the next chip after Carrizo is targeted at 14nm fin-something.

Which, if it pans out, would put Intel & AMD on the same node for the first time in a while. Supposedly Intel's first 10nm part isn't due until 2017:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_%28microarchitecture%29

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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post #2

I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again. I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be. Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel w…

> AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life

Why not?

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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post #5
post #2

I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again. I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be. Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel w…

> AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life Why not?

Intel's ever-widening process advantage makes that unlikely, processor design entirely notwithstanding. Unfortunate, but it's the result of being stuck on 28nm for 4 years and counting now.

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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post #2

I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again. I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be. Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel w…

It looks like AMD is skipping 20/22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture) http://www.pcgamer.com/amds-next-gen-zen-cpu-due-in-2016/ Seems like the next chip after Carrizo is targeted at 14nm fin-something. Which, if it pans out, would put Intel & AMD on the same node for the first time in a while. Supposedly Intel's first 10nm part isn't due until 2017: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_%28microarc…

The issue with TSMC/GF "16/14 nm" is that not all important features have been brought down to that level, so the actual shrink is less pronounced than usual. Furthermore, Intel's FinFET's are likely to be more mature than the competition, so I'd be wary of calling the two nodes equivalent. Close, certainly closer than the past, but Intel might retain its lead a bit longer.

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like AMD is skipping 20/22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture) http://www.pcgamer.com/amds-next-gen-zen-cpu-due-in-2016/ Seems like the next chip after Carrizo is targeted at 14nm fin-something. Which, if it pans out, would put Intel & AMD on the same node for the first time in a while. Supposedly Intel's first 10nm part isn't due until 2017: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_%28microarc…

The issue with TSMC/GF "16/14 nm" is that not all important features have been brought down to that level, so the actual shrink is less pronounced than usual. Furthermore, Intel's FinFET's are likely to be more mature than the competition, so I'd be wary of calling the two nodes equivalent. Close, certainly closer than the past, but Intel might retain its lead a bit longer.

Sure, they aren't equivalent, but at least it's closer than 28nm :) Also, while TSMC/GF are fudging the whole "14nm" thing, I would bet Intel is too. Node names are all marketing, and Intel is not above marketing.

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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post #2

I wonder if stagnating CPU requirements might make AMD competitive again. I have a 4 year old i5 laptop that can handle 100% of general office/home use. Battery life and gaming are the only two weak points. AMD aren't going to compete with Intel on battery life but with overall cpu/gpu power consumption falling it's not as big of a problem as it used to be. Wish they weren't stuck on 28nm still. It seems like Intel w…

I wonder what would happen when the process shrinks stop in say 5 to 10 years.

Re: AMD Launches Carrizo

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AMD has to stop naming their products like this.

I mean look at Intel, i3,i5,i7. I can at-least guess which one's better.

Yes I do understand that Intel too has many different names that caters to different markets, yet somehow Intel’s names are far more easier for me to understand, they are far more shorter, and if I want more details about the processor I can read what’s after the "Intel-i7-xxxx" and figure what it is.

I really want to see AMD succeed, I want to have more options when I want to buy a processor.

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