Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

I don't pretend to be a chemist, doctor, or nutritionist so I assume they have a good reason for adding it. They also seem to know about the bad publicity carrageenan has by calling out that it isn't poligeenan. I do wonder what the benefit of adding it is.

It seems like they still haven't gotten over the negative press and that this might not help them get more traction if it gets sensationalized.

Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 8:57 PM UTC

gellerb wrote: post #2

It unfortunately includes carrageenan.

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Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by tuckerman » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 9:00 PM UTC

mejari wrote: post #3

gellerb wrote: post #2

It unfortunately includes carrageenan.

Would you mind explaining why that's unfortunate?

poligeenan, also known as degraded carrageenan, was shown in some studies to be carcinogenic. Some high profile foods had carrageenan and there was some bad publicity due to it.

I am not a doctor, but I do believe that carrageenan has been classified as perfectly safe by the FDA.

EDIT: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRS...

Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by mejari » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

tuckerman wrote: post #6

mejari wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you mind explaining why that's unfortunate?

poligeenan, also known as degraded carrageenan, was shown in some studies to be carcinogenic. Some high profile foods had carrageenan and there was some bad publicity due to it. I am not a doctor, but I do believe that carrageenan has been classified as perfectly safe by the FDA. EDIT: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRS...

So that is probably why they specifically call out that the type of carrageenan in 1.5 is not the same type people have been complaining about.

Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by et2o » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC

I'm disappointed they haven't fixed the low amount of fiber (16g/day). The Institute of Medicine recommends 38g/day in men [1].

They reduced fiber in v1.4 because it was causing flatulence in some people. This is probably because those people were already eating a very low-fiber (unhealthy) diet; the gut microbiome would adjust given more time.

I am very enthusiastic about Soylent and currently use it (with a fiber supplement). However, I can't in good conscience recommend it to other people without that caveat. I don't know of any evidence for safety of the fiber reduction.

1. https://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Nutrition...

Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by cweagans » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

gellerb wrote: post #2

It unfortunately includes carrageenan.

Could you elaborate on why that's a problem?

Re: Soylent 1.5 Has Arrived

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Post by xutopia » Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 9:05 PM UTC

I'm surprised there is no cholesterol.

"Soylent still contains no significant quantity of cholesterol"

I was under the impression that it was required in a healthy diet. Can we otherwise synthesize it ourselves?