Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#1

Post by yuashizuki » Tue, May 05, 2015, 9:46 PM UTC

I have raised this issue a lot of times of hn being rigged, and this is the final time I am doing this. here is some more evidence. front page => http://imgur.com/GwtT4pF my link => http://imgur.com/K3nZ8dL enjoy your time here.

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#2

Post by yuashizuki » Tue, May 05, 2015, 9:47 PM UTC

clicks front page => http://imgur.com/GwtT4pF mylink => http://imgur.com/K3nZ8dL

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#3

Post by skorecky » Tue, May 05, 2015, 9:51 PM UTC

If you're just here for the karma, you're going to have a bad time.

Also in the pictures they are completely different titles. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove.

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#4

Post by duncan_bayne » Tue, May 05, 2015, 9:58 PM UTC

'Rigged' makes it sound like you're trying to win / earn something from participating here. What's your goal in participating on HN?

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#5

Post by svisser » Tue, May 05, 2015, 10:00 PM UTC

More votes doesn't mean front page.

Surely you would agree that the algorithm should consider other factors, such as time between votes, who voted, and so on?

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#6

Post by cjensen » Tue, May 05, 2015, 10:04 PM UTC

If your point is that your link with 7 upvotes was not promoted to the front page like another link with 7 upvotes, then... I'm afraid it's not rigged at all: the rank algorithm has more inputs that just upvotes. Which should be obvious: otherwise the article that had the most upvotes in history would still be ranked #1.

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#7

Post by qiqing » Tue, May 05, 2015, 10:08 PM UTC

I dunno, this seems like you might have triggered the "vote-ring detector."

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#8

Post by anigbrowl » Tue, May 05, 2015, 10:09 PM UTC

It's not a straight votes vs. posting time chart, but weights submissions by other factors, like how fast the voting goes and other factors I don't even know about.

Anyway, why do you care? I have stupendous amounts of karama but a lot of my submissions sink like a stone anyway, other times I post something that I consider amusing but unimportant and am surprised to find it sitting at the top of the front page hours later. It's not like there's some special store where you get to exchange karma points for cash/equity/delicious cake, although if anyone wants to set that up I would be totally supportive of it.

This isn't the first time you've got upset about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9241171 I suggest you stop worrying about it.

Re: Ask HN: I am quiting HN, its rigged

#9

Post by Mz » Tue, May 05, 2015, 10:17 PM UTC

hn being rigged

HN is "rigged" in that it has a set of rules that influence ranking. If you don't like those rules, yeah, you won't like it here. If you have some overdeveloped idea about how much attention you "deserve" or something, yeah, you probably won't like it here. HN doesn't exist as some venue for your personal convenience. It is a) part of the business strategy for Y-Combinator and b) a community. Every community has to find ways to balance diverse interests. And since it has a bona fide business purpose, that will come first, before other things. You can thus expect it to remain "rigged" and not live up to whatever imagined ideals you think it should ascribe to. FWIW, I think the fact that it is "rigged" is part of why it is one of the better things on the web.

ciao