Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by filet » Mon, May 04, 2015, 2:52 AM UTC

Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10
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Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by Animats » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:04 AM UTC

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones."

That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the phone. If I didn't, why would I have a desktop machine?

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by craigvn » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:07 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #2

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones." That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the…

Windows 10 will also run on phones and tablets so I think that is the audience for the apps, not the desktop.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by clumsysmurf » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:16 AM UTC

I'm worried they will inadvertently pollute their store with garbage from Google Play. Most people use just a handful of quality apps.

From my corner I hear a lot of grumbling from devs about Google's terrible Android SDK, poor documentation, buggy releases, flaky and buggy tools.

"“Our goal is to make Windows 10 the most attractive development platform ever,” Microsoft executive Terry Myerson told an audience"

I never felt that was Google's priority with Android. Its just that terrible.

Developers not strictly of the F/OSS mindset would probably try Windows development just for some new scenery, if their tooling was that great and they had more market share.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by ams6110 » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:16 AM UTC

I just can't imagine ever going back to Windows.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by taylorlapeyre » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:18 AM UTC

Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by higherpurpose » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:19 AM UTC

craigvn wrote: post #3

Animats wrote: post #2

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones." That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the…

Windows 10 will also run on phones and tablets so I think that is the audience for the apps, not the desktop.

Microsoft tend to make a lot of bold claims, but they rarely follow through or in the same way they promised. We'll see how that bold plan actually fleshes out in reality.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by edgyswingset » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:24 AM UTC

clumsysmurf wrote: post #4

I'm worried they will inadvertently pollute their store with garbage from Google Play. Most people use just a handful of quality apps. From my corner I hear a lot of grumbling from devs about Google's terrible Android SDK, poor documentation, buggy releases, flaky and buggy tools. "“Our goal is to make Windows 10 the most attractive development platform ever,” Microsoft executive Terry Myerson told an audience" I nev…

I think the biggest issue is inertia. Most everyone I speak with knows that the toolset for developing on Windows is superior to that of Android (language, IDE, testing, etc), but it's no simple task to be Windows-centric, shell out the cash for licenses, and convince a lot of people to abandon the language and ecosystem they already know for a new one.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by joenathan » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:25 AM UTC

higherpurpose wrote: post #7

craigvn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 will also run on phones and tablets so I think that is the audience for the apps, not the desktop.

Microsoft tend to make a lot of bold claims, but they rarely follow through or in the same way they promised . We'll see how that bold plan actually fleshes out in reality.

What are you talking about? What claims?

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by rodgerd » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:30 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #2

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones." That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the…

> I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine.

In some cases I might agree, in others... why can I have a game that runs on my phone but not play it on my desktop?