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(ABCL) - Common Lisp on the JVM

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Re: (ABCL) - Common Lisp on the JVM

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A bit off topic, check out JScheme http://norvig.com/jscheme.html a Scheme implementation for the JVM.

Peter Norving wrote it initially as a way to learn Java in 1998. So he decided he'd write Scheme implementation in Java in couple of hours.(I swear, his Java code still looks better than mine today and he wrote it 11 years ago. :))

I see loads of code in JScheme that could have influenced Clojure to some degree.

Re: (ABCL) - Common Lisp on the JVM

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How is it different from Clojure?

It's different in that, being common lisp, it's actually useless. Might be fun to tinker, tho, with its CLOS and stuff.

Useless how?

It has all the relevant constructs you'd need and more. And it runs on a JVM with access to Java lower level libraries.

Far from useless I'd say.

Re: (ABCL) - Common Lisp on the JVM

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It's different in that, being common lisp, it's actually useless. Might be fun to tinker, tho, with its CLOS and stuff.

Useless how? It has all the relevant constructs you'd need and more. And it runs on a JVM with access to Java lower level libraries. Far from useless I'd say.

Clojure is two years old and already has more useful software being written in than CL.

CL is a failure, admit it.

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Useless how? It has all the relevant constructs you'd need and more. And it runs on a JVM with access to Java lower level libraries. Far from useless I'd say.

Clojure is two years old and already has more useful software being written in than CL. CL is a failure, admit it.

> already has more useful software being written in than CL.

Like what? Those crippled Java wrappers?

> CL is a failure, admit it.

You are a failure, admit it. Since you are not popular (I don't know who you are), you are useless. (Your broken logic in practice.)

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Clojure is two years old and already has more useful software being written in than CL. CL is a failure, admit it.

> already has more useful software being written in than CL. Like what? Those crippled Java wrappers? > CL is a failure, admit it. You are a failure, admit it. Since you are not popular (I don't know who you are), you are useless. (Your broken logic in practice.)

Nope it isn't.

I've heard about CL, know a few things about it, and it's a failure nontheless.

Its problem isn't the unpopularity between Blub programmers; its problem is its unpopularity even between geeks. Even language geeks!

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