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Re: Viking Code School

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The Iron Yard (Orlando, FL) is also a coding school that guarantees a job to its graduates. They don't offer the same "don't pay if you don't get hired" policy, to my knowledge.

I can't vouch for the efficacy of either, but learning programming from 0 in N weeks and guaranteed employment seems... unlikely.

Re: Viking Code School

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The Iron Yard (Orlando, FL) is also a coding school that guarantees a job to its graduates. They don't offer the same "don't pay if you don't get hired" policy, to my knowledge. I can't vouch for the efficacy of either, but learning programming from 0 in N weeks and guaranteed employment seems... unlikely.

I don't think any of these boot camps promise 0 to N anymore; most require weeks or months of prep work and strong demonstrated interest.

Re: Viking Code School

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At risk of admitting tl;dr... how long do you have to find a job? For example, if I find a job programming 10 years after graduating from an accredited university, do I need to pay them?

Re: Viking Code School

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At risk of admitting tl;dr... how long do you have to find a job? For example, if I find a job programming 10 years after graduating from an accredited university, do I need to pay them?

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Re: Viking Code School

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The Iron Yard (Orlando, FL) is also a coding school that guarantees a job to its graduates. They don't offer the same "don't pay if you don't get hired" policy, to my knowledge. I can't vouch for the efficacy of either, but learning programming from 0 in N weeks and guaranteed employment seems... unlikely.

I don't think any of these boot camps promise 0 to N anymore; most require weeks or months of prep work and strong demonstrated interest.

If you're going to put in months of "prep work", you don't really need a boot camp to learn how to be a programmer. At best, it's an expensive job placement program that forces you to do a lot of homework to cover their own reputation. Which is brilliant.

Background: I've been programming for over a decade; I'm self-taught and I've taught a handful of other people very early in their programming careers. Even the folks who mastered the fundamentals didn't really grasp the advanced concepts in a few weeks (probably due to being really busy with work, etc.).

Also, I rather dislike the term "software engineer" when referring to developers who have not been licensed: http://www.ieeeusa.org/policy/positions/Engineertitle0213.pd...

Re: Viking Code School

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post #5

At risk of admitting tl;dr... how long do you have to find a job? For example, if I find a job programming 10 years after graduating from an accredited university, do I need to pay them?

You're supported directly in the job search for 6 months post-graduation. After that, there's no tuition obligation and the deposit is returned if it hasn't worked out.

Re: Viking Code School

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The problem I have with this is that a certain percentage of people will get a job anyway. I could, theoretically speaking, set up a school that promises you only pay if you get a job - teach nothing - and then rake in the profits.

Where this falls on a line between 100% of people get a job and only the background rate get a job is questionable - and I'd be interested to see the degree of investment that they place in each student because there will be Kelly Criterion that determine how rational it is for them to gamble on that at any particular point of value-add to the student.

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