No new IP adresses by next year?
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No new IP adresses by next year?
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Re: No new IP adresses by next year?
#2You can meet all your IPv4 exhaustion counter needs here: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/
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#3>> "We'll be down to our last tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of web addresses by the end of next year,"
I don't buy it. There's millions of unused IP addresses, mostly massive blocks that were allocated to big companies early on. If IPv4 addresses truly become scarce, these big companies will simply start selling some off.
Not saying it's a bad idea to switch over, but it's not something most people need worry about for a few years IMHO.
We've been hearing this for years now. It's like when I was at school they told us we'd run out of oil in 2000 or something.
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#4It's a bit funny observing those predictions. Everyone has his own... Using a not very scientific probing on google, This is the number of articles saying that we will run out of ipv4 in year X:
- 2007 - 689
- 2008 - 1,970
- 2009 - 618
- 2010 - 3,590
- 2011 - 2,180
- 2012 - 1,750
- 2013 - 2,620
- 2014 - 749
- 2015 - 686
I wonder if there are any betting companies interested in this event ;)
Re: No new IP adresses by next year?
#5You can meet all your IPv4 exhaustion counter needs here: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/
This is also a good source if you want to know how the exhaustion will occur: http://ipv4.potaroo.net/
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#6>> "We'll be down to our last tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of web addresses by the end of next year," I don't buy it. There's millions of unused IP addresses, mostly massive blocks that were allocated to big companies early on. If IPv4 addresses truly become scarce, these big companies will simply start selling some off. Not saying it's a bad idea to switch over, but it's not something most people need…
Large chunks of the large early allocations have already been handed back over the last few years. There isn't that much more left to reclaim or sell.
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#7Good. Companies are going to keep putting off IPV6 migrations until ARIN slows down their deployments of new IPV4 IP space. To this point all the doomsday talk hasn't had much impact on reality. Request IPs, get IPs, ignore problem. Once ARIN does slow down new deployments companies will have to make more efficient use of their existing IPV4 space in the short term. Most of the big deployments I've seen in ISP environments are very wasteful or were hugely over engineered to start with. In my environment I haven't requested new IP space in the last 3 years and could probably go another 2-3 years without a single new public IPV4 IP address.
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#8Good. Companies are going to keep putting off IPV6 migrations until ARIN slows down their deployments of new IPV4 IP space. To this point all the doomsday talk hasn't had much impact on reality. Request IPs, get IPs, ignore problem. Once ARIN does slow down new deployments companies will have to make more efficient use of their existing IPV4 space in the short term. Most of the big deployments I've seen in ISP enviro…
I think they know what they're doing by requesting more... At least in Europe you have to properly label your IPs and that way "prove" they're used. You will not get new ranges just because you request them.
Solution? Every time a new service goes live - give it a new ip. And another one for failover. You fill your allocations quickly and go back for more ips. This way people who over-allocated will have no problem to free up a full /24 when they need it, once ARIN and others slow down. But you won't get a new /24 at all and will not have any space to reuse / redesign... Cruel, but that will happen.
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#9>> "We'll be down to our last tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of web addresses by the end of next year," I don't buy it. There's millions of unused IP addresses, mostly massive blocks that were allocated to big companies early on. If IPv4 addresses truly become scarce, these big companies will simply start selling some off. Not saying it's a bad idea to switch over, but it's not something most people need…
You cannot sell them, at least openly. If they cached you, you could lost all your allocations.
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#10>> "We'll be down to our last tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of web addresses by the end of next year," I don't buy it. There's millions of unused IP addresses, mostly massive blocks that were allocated to big companies early on. If IPv4 addresses truly become scarce, these big companies will simply start selling some off. Not saying it's a bad idea to switch over, but it's not something most people need…
You cannot sell them, at least openly. If they cached you, you could lost all your allocations.
> If they cached you, you could lost all your allocations.
Is this because of a poor serialisation format?