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A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

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Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#2
The comments on that site are sickening. Yes, I do not agree with Eich's views. Mozilla owned up to it. Someone should tell them to disable JS everywhere because of Eich.

Plus, Firefox is a community project with more momentum than almost any FOSS project. It won't die.

edit: read that in reverse

Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#3

The comments on that site are sickening. Yes, I do not agree with Eich's views. Mozilla owned up to it. Someone should tell them to disable JS everywhere because of Eich. Plus, Firefox is a community project with more momentum than almost any FOSS project. It won't die. edit: read that in reverse

The comments I read took rather a different position I thought - that they believe people should not use Firefox because Mozilla "fired" Eich. Still a sickening position.

Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#6
My choice to dump Firefox has absolutely nothing to do with Eich's termination. Or his comments.

Firefox on the Mac has gotten increasingly slower for me, since about version 28. Version 36 is when it became absolutely intolerable, where the pinwheel pauses during navigating to a new page or opening a new tab achieved a duration of 10 - 30 seconds. I could handle 1-2 seconds. Even 3-5 seconds was annoying but not enough to get me to stop using Firefox. Version 36 did it for me. Some may have a lower threshold for pain than I, and exited earlier.

Yes, I disabled ALL of my add-ons, which consisted of Firebug and ABP, and while the performance improved slightly, it still exceeded the 5-second annoyance barrier all too often. I finally gave up and started using Chrome, which BTW, runs like a banshee even with ABP installed.

Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#7
Unless you want bloatware that sucks RAM and battery, what else are you supposed to use?

I went from Firefox to Safari to Chrome and back to Firefox. Firefox was bloatware before. Now it's acceptable when compared to Chrome and Safari.

Either Firefox was improved, or wasn't improved while hardware was, and while Safari and Chrome added useless feature after useless feature.

In any case, I do not see any alternative to Firefox for 'power users'. I'm very happy to use it. The report that Firefox marketshare is shrinking is weird. I've seen more and more people using it recently.

Maybe I'm just odd but I love firefox on MacOS, Linux and android because it just works at a decent speed.

Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#8
The problem I feel with Mozilla is that they mistook why they were successful. They attributed the success of Firefox to the openness of the browser and the company and have doubled-down on that. In reality though, that wasn't why it was successful at all.

Firefox was great because it was a great browser at a time when other browsers weren't so good.

The fact that it was open-source was a huge plus for people in tech but it wasn't the main (or even a significant) reason for its success. As a result, as soon as Chrome comes out which many people consider to be better (or at least a better experience) people abandoned it.

Re: A shrinking Firefox faces endangered species status

#10
I really don't want to develop web code in a world where the only two popular browsers are one developed by and for Google, and one by and for Microsoft. But every time I come to a thread that mentions Firefox on this website, there are people claiming (usually wrongly) that it doesn't implement x, y, or z that someone else does. I really think the development community needs to wake up a bit, and start promoting FF internally, instead of just following the Google hype train.
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