Zend PHP JIT open sourced
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Zend PHP JIT open sourced
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Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#2Please, die PHP.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#3As much as their technological contributions are appreciated, the slow creep of Zend branding (and its own, different licensing) into PHP is not a good thing. Opcache is part of PHP now, yet it's Zend branded everywhere and has a bus factor of one (nobody can understand the source code except a Zend employee - every time anything's changed in the engine, Opcache breaks and he has to go and fix it). Similarly, it's not good that the Zend Engine is marked with a Zend Technologies copyright notice either. It's the core PHP runtime, yet if you read the notices you'd think it was some proprietary product donated by or licensed from them.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#4As much as their technological contributions are appreciated, the slow creep of Zend branding (and its own, different licensing) into PHP is not a good thing. Opcache is part of PHP now, yet it's Zend branded everywhere and has a bus factor of one (nobody can understand the source code except a Zend employee - every time anything's changed in the engine, Opcache breaks and he has to go and fix it). Similarly, it's no…
Pure open source doesn't seem to exist in this decade; all large enough projects seem to die without corporate sponsorship.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
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Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#6Everyone interested in this needs to read the thread carefully. This is not an actual JIT, and the synthetic benchmark is even more misleading than normal benchmarks.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#7As much as their technological contributions are appreciated, the slow creep of Zend branding (and its own, different licensing) into PHP is not a good thing. Opcache is part of PHP now, yet it's Zend branded everywhere and has a bus factor of one (nobody can understand the source code except a Zend employee - every time anything's changed in the engine, Opcache breaks and he has to go and fix it). Similarly, it's no…
Pure open source doesn't seem to exist in this decade; all large enough projects seem to die without corporate sponsorship.
Of course, most good opensource have a corporate arm behind them, which helps fund development.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#8As much as their technological contributions are appreciated, the slow creep of Zend branding (and its own, different licensing) into PHP is not a good thing. Opcache is part of PHP now, yet it's Zend branded everywhere and has a bus factor of one (nobody can understand the source code except a Zend employee - every time anything's changed in the engine, Opcache breaks and he has to go and fix it). Similarly, it's no…
Pure open source doesn't seem to exist in this decade; all large enough projects seem to die without corporate sponsorship.
It was already like that with the projects that hit big.
Linux got lots of contributions from companies that would rather invest into it than paying UNIX licenses.
Eventually it got lots of support from the likes of IBM and Intel, because its existence suited their business.
GCC got lots of support when UNIX vendors started charging for their SDKs and smaller shops invested into it.
Likewise for many other projects.
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#9Everyone interested in this needs to read the thread carefully. This is not an actual JIT, and the synthetic benchmark is even more misleading than normal benchmarks.
Link to the benchmark in question:
https://gist.github.com/dstogov/12323ad13d3240aee8f1
Re: Zend PHP JIT open sourced
#10As much as their technological contributions are appreciated, the slow creep of Zend branding (and its own, different licensing) into PHP is not a good thing. Opcache is part of PHP now, yet it's Zend branded everywhere and has a bus factor of one (nobody can understand the source code except a Zend employee - every time anything's changed in the engine, Opcache breaks and he has to go and fix it). Similarly, it's no…
Pure open source doesn't seem to exist in this decade; all large enough projects seem to die without corporate sponsorship.
Perl is thoroughly alive, large and not excessively corporate sponsored. Then again it's largely on the backchannel at the moment.