Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#1

Post by msujaws » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 4:40 AM UTC

Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
mail.mozilla.org

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#2

Post by mburns » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:16 AM UTC

> "Note that Shumway will not play Amazon's "Instant Video" films and TV shows. Those videos use Microsoft's Silverlight plugin for DRM."

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#3

Post by rcthompson » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:24 AM UTC

> Shumway needs H.264 video decoders that may not be available on Windows XP or Linux.

Today I learned that Firefox still supports Windows XP.

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#4

Post by cpeterso » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:41 AM UTC

rcthompson wrote: post #3

> Shumway needs H.264 video decoders that may not be available on Windows XP or Linux. Today I learned that Firefox still supports Windows XP.

About 25% of Firefox Windows users run Windows XP.

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#5

Post by yohui » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:44 AM UTC

mburns wrote: post #2

> "Note that Shumway will not play Amazon's "Instant Video" films and TV shows. Those videos use Microsoft's Silverlight plugin for DRM."

Amazon Instant Video can also use Flash. See "Player Preferences": https://smile.amazon.com/gp/video/settings

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#6

Post by bobajeff » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:45 AM UTC

I'm waiting until they get JWPlayer working. So many sites still use it.

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#7

Post by cpeterso » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:51 AM UTC

I'm a program manager on Mozilla's Shumway team. If you have any questions, please ask! :) The name "Shumway" is derived from "Gordon Shumway", the actual name of the TV character ALF: Flash -> Flash Gordon -> Gordon Shumway -> Shumway. :)

Shumway is written in TypeScript. It has an ActionScript interpreter and a JIT that generates JavaScript, compiled using eval(). The code is on GitHub:

https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#8

Post by cpeterso » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 5:56 AM UTC

bobajeff wrote: post #6

I'm waiting until they get JWPlayer working. So many sites still use it.

JWPlayer support is difficult because there are many JWPlayer variants and old versions out there. It's easier to test and whitelist individual websites to start.

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#9

Post by cpeterso » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:04 AM UTC

yohui wrote: post #5

mburns wrote: post #2

> "Note that Shumway will not play Amazon's "Instant Video" films and TV shows. Those videos use Microsoft's Silverlight plugin for DRM."

Amazon Instant Video can also use Flash. See "Player Preferences": https://smile.amazon.com/gp/video/settings

Thanks! I didn't know that. I just tested an Amazon Instant Video in Shumway, but the video fails to load because Amazon's video player uses some Flex libraries that Shumway doesn't support yet.

Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway

#10

Post by welly » Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 6:27 AM UTC

cpeterso wrote: post #7

I'm a program manager on Mozilla's Shumway team. If you have any questions, please ask! :) The name "Shumway" is derived from "Gordon Shumway", the actual name of the TV character ALF: Flash -> Flash Gordon -> Gordon Shumway -> Shumway. :) Shumway is written in TypeScript. It has an ActionScript interpreter and a JIT that generates JavaScript, compiled using eval(). The code is on GitHub: https://github.com/mozilla/s…

Just to clarify, Shumway converts/interprets/executes Flash files as HTML/HTML5?

That is very cool, if so.