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Internships Abroad: Unpaid, with a $10,000 Price Tag

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Like article says, unpaid internships, especially in expensive cities, is also a reliable way to select people from upper crust i.e. parents can bankroll their stay in high priced neighborhoods. Sometimes I wonder if that is what some firms and banks are doing.

In this case some are using student loans for it. Which is an interesting twist on things.

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>...a junior majoring in history and French at the University of Michigan, had an eight-week internship at a bridal boutique in Paris arranged by Global Experiences. Ms. Friedberg said that the internship, which cost $10,000, was a great learning experience but the grunt work, like serving tea and coffee to customers, got repetitive, convincing her she did not want to work retail.

Do French majors really think their best post-grad option is to be a store clerk in a France?

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Like article says, unpaid internships, especially in expensive cities, is also a reliable way to select people from upper crust i.e. parents can bankroll their stay in high priced neighborhoods. Sometimes I wonder if that is what some firms and banks are doing. In this case some are using student loans for it. Which is an interesting twist on things.

To be fair, paying for an internship might have higher returns than paying for classes. Although that doesn't mean an internship abroad is worth a whole lot more than an internship at home.

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>...a junior majoring in history and French at the University of Michigan, had an eight-week internship at a bridal boutique in Paris arranged by Global Experiences. Ms. Friedberg said that the internship, which cost $10,000, was a great learning experience but the grunt work, like serving tea and coffee to customers, got repetitive, convincing her she did not want to work retail. Do French majors really think their…

It sounds like these students are getting degree credit for the work. My school had a strict policy against that sort of thing, but you doubtless get much better at French when you spend a lot of structured time in France.

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>...a junior majoring in history and French at the University of Michigan, had an eight-week internship at a bridal boutique in Paris arranged by Global Experiences. Ms. Friedberg said that the internship, which cost $10,000, was a great learning experience but the grunt work, like serving tea and coffee to customers, got repetitive, convincing her she did not want to work retail. Do French majors really think their…

It sounds like these students are getting degree credit for the work. My school had a strict policy against that sort of thing, but you doubtless get much better at French when you spend a lot of structured time in France.

I guess that's legit if the purpose is language immersion. The article made it sound like she was paying to find out how much she'd enjoy selling clothes.

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Like article says, unpaid internships, especially in expensive cities, is also a reliable way to select people from upper crust i.e. parents can bankroll their stay in high priced neighborhoods. Sometimes I wonder if that is what some firms and banks are doing. In this case some are using student loans for it. Which is an interesting twist on things.

What is the incentive for employers to do this?

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post #2

Like article says, unpaid internships, especially in expensive cities, is also a reliable way to select people from upper crust i.e. parents can bankroll their stay in high priced neighborhoods. Sometimes I wonder if that is what some firms and banks are doing. In this case some are using student loans for it. Which is an interesting twist on things.

To be fair, paying for an internship might have higher returns than paying for classes. Although that doesn't mean an internship abroad is worth a whole lot more than an internship at home.

The world sure is changing when the most valuable resource on earth (labor from humans) has to pay to work, and when that is sold as a good idea and potentially better than credentialing.

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>...a junior majoring in history and French at the University of Michigan, had an eight-week internship at a bridal boutique in Paris arranged by Global Experiences. Ms. Friedberg said that the internship, which cost $10,000, was a great learning experience but the grunt work, like serving tea and coffee to customers, got repetitive, convincing her she did not want to work retail. Do French majors really think their…

That's just a scam.

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Like article says, unpaid internships, especially in expensive cities, is also a reliable way to select people from upper crust i.e. parents can bankroll their stay in high priced neighborhoods. Sometimes I wonder if that is what some firms and banks are doing. In this case some are using student loans for it. Which is an interesting twist on things.

What is the incentive for employers to do this?

The same incentive as people of same status wanting to congregate together. It is a signal.

Like say someone wearing a $50K custom watch. It is a small detail but those that "know" will notice. Which is probably one of the main reasons it is worn to begin with.

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