How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
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Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#2At least it ends on a hopeful note:
"We all took the vaccine after that. I had one shot, and I still took the other one and we had all our kids vaccinated, too. After people saw how sick people got, they changed their minds."
Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#3it breaks my heart to see so many "adults" making "informed decisions" about NOT vaccinating their children. They should really go live in undeveloped countries where vaccines are scarce and unavailable to experience first hand what lack of vaccinations actually means, what the implications are for the general population.
I grew up, fortunately with out any problems, seeing so many kids suffering from polio, handicapped for life, limping, wondering why they got this disease thats so easily controlled; saw many kids die from cholera, typhiod, TB, bed ridden for months with measles, viral fevers .... and here we are in the most advanced country in the world with access (ok ... I know healthcare in the US is not easy access to everyone) to vaccinations and parents CHOOSE to not vaccinate their kids .... and risk so many lives.
sad does not begin to explain what I feel.
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#4Trying to pin the blame on the Amish doesn't seem right. Sure they weren't vaccinated but they are also less educated and have much, much less access to information on health than us. The 'informed' members of society who choose not to vaccinate are the real problem, otherwise the disease would have been contained to a small community of people. These informed individuals have no excuse. Take the latest outbreak for example [0] in Disney land.
[0] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31034379
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Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#5it breaks my heart to see so many "adults" making "informed decisions" about NOT vaccinating their children. They should really go live in undeveloped countries where vaccines are scarce and unavailable to experience first hand what lack of vaccinations actually means, what the implications are for the general population. I grew up, fortunately with out any problems, seeing so many kids suffering from polio, handicap…
Sad doesn't even begin to describe how people should feel. People should feel irate.
Of course, that assumes people are or become informed about the nature of and reason for vaccination. Which should (and, at least as of my education, was) be a trivial part of US education.
Granted: The fact that many people apparently considered Jenny McCarthy a reliable source of scientific information points to a far more basic stupidity than a failure to understand high school microbiology. It's hard to educate people in general; it's way harder to educate people who have left the compulsory school system and decided that Twitter and celebrity are reliable sources of valid health advice.
Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#6it breaks my heart to see so many "adults" making "informed decisions" about NOT vaccinating their children. They should really go live in undeveloped countries where vaccines are scarce and unavailable to experience first hand what lack of vaccinations actually means, what the implications are for the general population. I grew up, fortunately with out any problems, seeing so many kids suffering from polio, handicap…
>> "and risk so many lives"
This is the worst part in my opinion. By making this choice they are putting others (those who can't afford or haven't had the chance to get the vaccine yet) at risk.
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#7Trying to pin the blame on the Amish doesn't seem right. Sure they weren't vaccinated but they are also less educated and have much, much less access to information on health than us. The 'informed' members of society who choose not to vaccinate are the real problem, otherwise the disease would have been contained to a small community of people. These informed individuals have no excuse. Take the latest outbreak for…
Anyone who is not vaccinated and goes around in public is a danger. It doesn't matter why they aren't, the why doesn't make them more or less of a danger. They are all dangers to society.
Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#8Trying to pin the blame on the Amish doesn't seem right. Sure they weren't vaccinated but they are also less educated and have much, much less access to information on health than us. The 'informed' members of society who choose not to vaccinate are the real problem, otherwise the disease would have been contained to a small community of people. These informed individuals have no excuse. Take the latest outbreak for…
Anyone who is not vaccinated and goes around in public is a danger. It doesn't matter why they aren't, the why doesn't make them more or less of a danger. They are all dangers to society.
I didn't say they were less of a danger. My point was that there mistake can be excused easier due to lack of information. People who are informed about the vaccine and make the decision not to use it however cannot be excused at all as there behaviour is reckless. Attempting to point the blame at the Amish instead of the latter group doesn't seem right to me.
Re: How an Amish missionary caused 2014's massive measles outbreak
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone who is not vaccinated and goes around in public is a danger. It doesn't matter why they aren't, the why doesn't make them more or less of a danger. They are all dangers to society.
I didn't say they were less of a danger. My point was that there mistake can be excused easier due to lack of information. People who are informed about the vaccine and make the decision not to use it however cannot be excused at all as there behaviour is reckless. Attempting to point the blame at the Amish instead of the latter group doesn't seem right to me.
Aren't the Amish deliberately not vaccinated as they deliberately don't have access to the information? How is that different from someone who has access to the information but deliberately chooses to ignore it or disbelieve it?
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#10Trying to pin the blame on the Amish doesn't seem right. Sure they weren't vaccinated but they are also less educated and have much, much less access to information on health than us. The 'informed' members of society who choose not to vaccinate are the real problem, otherwise the disease would have been contained to a small community of people. These informed individuals have no excuse. Take the latest outbreak for…
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