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Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

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Post by mrmondo »

I truly wish them all the best with this project. It would be a momentous win for privacy to have email encrypted by default and easy enough for the general public to use and that is no easy task. Will be interesting to see how this plays out and if they can get some quality email companies like Fastmail onboard early on.

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Post by chhantyal »

I watched Citizenfour yesterday and one of the really disturbing parts of movie was Lavabit founder talking at European Parliament about why he had to shut it down. I am glad that something good is coming up.

But can we please change name from 'dark' to something like 'secure, encrypted etc'? Dark inherently sounds negative, at least in my part of the world.

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Post by iagooar »

Is "Dark Mail" going to be the official name? I am no marketing expert, but I am pretty sure it's not a good name. People associate darkness with negative feelings, thus a lot of people might start thinking that encryption is for hiding "illegal" things, and not for keeping privacy.

And please, don't even try using the silly X.0 naming, as some tech-ignorant journalists started doing over a decade ago.

Besides the naming thing, I wish them the best, as I hope that this will spread and become a new standard, even with the masses.

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

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Post by zaroth »

The spec is pretty intense, I think the first thing to work on is better high level documentation and overview. There is a lot going on with how this proposed system formats, encrypts, signs, routes, and validates.

I've only glanced over less than half of the spec so far, but I'm not convinced of the design just yet. For starters, I'm not sure I fully understand the trust model, or even the baseline limitations on things like one-to-many emails, key exchange, PFS. Before jumping straight into packet formats and field layouts, I want to read more about the basic operational model.

Re: Dark Mail Technical Alliance

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Post by ajb »

3 of 5 comments so far mentioning that the name is a mistake. Allow me to make that 4 of 6. Come on guys, authoritarians are going to argue that this is just about defending criminals and terrorists, do you want to make that argument for them? Call it 'Liberty mail' or something.
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