Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
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Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#2It's a nice thought, but it'll never happen. It'll be a 'matter of national security', supporters will be branded 'terrorists' or other such nonsense.
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#3If every state stood up and passed bills like this the NSA couldnt have giant data centers in this country.
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#4It's a nice thought, but it'll never happen. It'll be a 'matter of national security', supporters will be branded 'terrorists' or other such nonsense.
Don't let them control the narrative. The discourse they have is absurd.
Their system not only doesn't work but creates haystacks so big that needles get deeply hidden and no real intelligence happens.
The rationale for the spy-everyone story is such an implausible fantasy. We have to stop letting people get away with saying it without being challenged.
This needs to stop.
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#5If every state stood up and passed bills like this the NSA couldnt have giant data centers in this country.
As shocking as it might be, the NSA has other things to do which actually are crucial for national security. Reforming the agency will go much further than basically saying "you can't have cool servers or toilets that flush."
I know hating the NSA is en vogue but seriously. This is almost as bad as stonewalling and other hostilities toward other branches of government simply because the opposite party is in power (that goes both ways, before you think I'm attacking the right). The NSA committed grievous sin. I'm as upset about it as you. Even so, it baffles me that we would be having this conversation about water.
God, stuff like this just depresses me. And that you love it, too. That depresses me as well. It's a cheap "rah rah go Utah sticking it to the man" puppet show that is ultimately meaningless, but you and many like you just eat it up.
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Edit: Between this stupid "you're submitting too fast" barrier that I've never seen until recently on a >year account, downvoting being blessed as okay to represent disagreement, graying comments as a result which silences disagreement and causes a dogpile effect, arbitrary shadowbans in 2014, and my critique of this political theater being interpreted as defense of the NSA or an advertisement that I need the condescension of having an intelligence agency explained to me (better: I'm not going to answer your question but anybody that passed US History knows the answer), HN has done a pretty good job of silencing opposing thought. I asked a question and it's barely legible. Even now, watching people Cmd+F my username and downvote every hit between refreshes. You sure showed me for not thinking like you!
Since I disagree with many things HN holds dear, and since the people and technology have made clear that's not welcome, after six years of contributing to Hacker News on various accounts, I'm done. I can't take the technology nor the people any more.
It amazes me how hostile HN is now, both socially and technically, and yet people remain. The crowning irony is that people here complain about becoming Reddit, yet on some of the very lesser-known subreddits I've had literally life-changing conversations. Here it's just bickering to see who is more right. Nothing of value comes of this thread, or the hundreds before it. Nothing. I want a refund of my time wasted here.
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#6Meh, according to the article, NSA already has a water deal until 2021, which this bill is not attempting to change. I remember hearing about trying to cut off their water months ago; was an opportunity missed, or was it already too late then? How might they cut off the water sooner than 2021?
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#7Hey, you guys didn't even want the Freedom act, this will not be passed. We all know how things go over there, across the pond, we saw House of Cards ;)
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#8Hey, you guys didn't even want the Freedom act, this will not be passed. We all know how things go over there, across the pond, we saw House of Cards ;)
We got House of Cards from you, didn't we?
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#9Hey, you guys didn't even want the Freedom act, this will not be passed. We all know how things go over there, across the pond, we saw House of Cards ;)
We got House of Cards from you, didn't we?
teekert is from Holland, so no.
The original House of Cards was British, though it doesn't really reflect how UK politics are.
Yes, Minister comes closer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080306/
Though that implies that through the farce we get things done, which hasn't been true for a while.
Not sure what this has to do with the water supply to a datacenter though.
Re: Utah Considers Cutting Off Water to the NSA’s Monster Data Center
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
We got House of Cards from you, didn't we?
teekert is from Holland, so no. The original House of Cards was British, though it doesn't really reflect how UK politics are. Yes, Minister comes closer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080306/ Though that implies that through the farce we get things done, which hasn't been true for a while. Not sure what this has to do with the water supply to a datacenter though.
Sorry, "across the pond" pretty much says "I'm British" to me, because we say that almost exclusively about you (IME). I don't keep up with where folks are from.
Anyway, agreed, it's an off topic diversion.